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Rollbar Fire Extinguisher Mount Ideas?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Boyink, Dec 23, 2004.

  1. Dec 25, 2004
    Sol Searcher

    Sol Searcher New Member

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    After reading "ROCNROL" experience, I would do a bit more shopping. I am a Senior Instructor for Boeing, so am around aircraft every day. I was able to grab a few :shock: aircraft fire extinguishers that were beyond there service date. It only takes a dab to put out a fire, and no dry chimical mess.
    In inspecting aircraft 2 times I have found some :mad: genius had wired the pin with stainless steel safety wire rather than copper.

    A little scronging around the aircraft scrap yards could be rewarding.
     
  2. Dec 25, 2004
    schardein

    schardein Low Range Therapy

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    I'll add my 2 cents. All of my offraod vehicles have a firex. Accessability is the main thing, the ONLY thing. In my fullsize Blazer and wife's CJ-7, the firex is mounting on the tranny hump where either the driver or pass can reach it.

    I use the regular store bought "auto" fire extinguishers, that usually come with some kind of plastic mounting bracket.

    I had an electrical fire in the CJ-7, with my wife and at the time our 16 year old exchange student from Armenia. The tranny hump mounted firex came into use quickly and easily, and solved the problem.

    I was also involved in a shop fire (spilled gasoline), when I got the big shop firex off the wall the pin was secured with a zip tie. Not some easy to break special thing either, I mean a BFZiptie. Someone else had the fire stomped/smothered out before a third party could come up with some side cutters. And this was in a college auto shop of nearly 20 students who all had their personal tool boxes within hands reach.

    Below is what I did with my -5. Simple and uses otherwise wasted space. Easier than getting it off the rollbar (I do not have a full cage). Only bad thing is the passenger cannot reach it.
     
  3. Dec 25, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No - but why does it have to be aluminum? I could make that out of my scrap pile stuff (and actually be able to weld it to the cage)...but it still doesn't actually mount the extinguisher.

    Heh Mike - take a look:
    http://www.4wd.com/shop/productdetail.asp?model=tj&productsku=905

    Still too much $$ though.

    What would it take to build these out of cheaper material? I'd bet if we could sell them for $20 we'd make a killing....
     
  4. Dec 25, 2004
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    (shrugs)
     
  5. Dec 25, 2004
    blevisay

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    Only thing I can see that drives cost up a hair is the amount of waste material in that design .
     
  6. Dec 25, 2004
    Mcruff

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    Waste material is a problem!! Thats why I suggested casting it.
     
  7. Dec 27, 2004
    w3srl

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    I agree with the accessibility issue. Try looking the issue with the jeep not only in its normal resting position, but also resting on its side, inverted on its cage, etc. and figure how you are going to get that extinguisher out when the top is on, and so forth. Just about every location commonly used has some drawback.

    Keep in mind that Jeeps, like their SUV cousins frequently end up on their sides even during minor traffic impacts, due to their higher center of gravity. This is not all bad news, despite what the media says; The roll absorbs a great deal of the energy from impact, and rollbars/belts kep the passengers safely in the passenger compartment.

    IMHO, the spot in between the seats, or centered on the underside lip of the dashboard are best for accessibility, but in between the seats will get stomped on by passengers getting in/out of the rear seat. Under the dash will put it in direct contact with flames from an under-dash fire.
    The common rollbar mounts are out of the way, but next to impossible to remove from outside the rig with the top on. YMMV.

    I'm thinking that the best situation may be more than one 5-lb. unit, mounted in different locations. Perhaps one under the dash and one on the rollbar upright behind the seat, or mebbe even one outside the Jeep on the spare tire mount or something. Not that I advocate turning your Jeep into a circus-wagon by any means, but you get the idea... ;)

    Whatever you do, PLEASE don't use zip-ties to secure the extinguisher into the bracket for the reason mentioned earlier. That's the fasted way to GUARANTEE that you won't be able get the unit out of the bracket in a hurry!
     
  8. Dec 27, 2004
    Boyink

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    Thanks Steve...I am considering two extinguishers at this point.

    FWIW, I had the ext. mount zip-tied to the rollbar, then the ext. itself was held in by velcro "tape" (the double sided stuff that sticks to itself).
     
  9. Dec 27, 2004
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    O.K., Heres a Wild *** Blue Sky Idea (TM)- Howsabout a 5 or 10 lb. extinghisher mounted somewheres outta the way plumbed with some remote nozzles strategigically placed around the engine compartment??? Put a big red cool lookin "Fire" handle on the dash hooked to a cable release mechanism & everybody will be Impressed :).

    Of course it wouldn't do much good pulling the handle if its your buddy's jeep thats on fire :(.

    H.
     
  10. Dec 27, 2004
    66cj5

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    go for 2 units: one in front (mounted to tranny hump) and one rear (mounted to roll bar). might go w/7# for front, as that is the one I would grab first.
     
  11. Dec 27, 2004
    Posimoto

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    I mounted one on the roll bar behind the driver and one for the passenger, low on the front hoop down by the passengers feet. I a make sure the passenger knows how to remove and deploy it if I have someone with me that hasn't been before. I took the plastic wall mount that comes with the extinguisher and used the two screw holes in it to mount to roll bar. Just mark the holes and drill them so you can use a self tapping screw. It makes its own threads and eliminates those hose clamps that always seem to have a little extra band sticking out somewhere.
     
  12. Dec 27, 2004
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Here's the one I'm going to use in my Jeep come spring:

    (Sorry about ther image size, my photo editor keeps buggering the pix)

    This is a 10# dry chem unit, with bracket. It's rated for 4 A / 10 B & C. This is what we carry in all our FD rigs to meet the D.O.T. requirements. You'd think that 500 gallons of water and both Class A and B foam on board would fill those squares, but NOOOOO!

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Dec 28, 2004
    53Flattie

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    I sure hope someone got in big trouble for this... :evil:
     
  14. Dec 28, 2004
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    Boyink

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    I like the idea..and the price.

    But neither QT or the manufacturer indicate what size extinguisher it will hold. And it looks smaller than the extinguishers I have.
     
  16. Dec 28, 2004
    vanguard

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    Can't you read? It holds the same size extingusher as a water bottle. :D

    They're out of the office until Jan 3. :(
     
  17. Dec 28, 2004
    Boyink

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    That's what makes me think it's too small. All the extinguishers I have are bigger than the average water bottle.
     
  18. Dec 28, 2004
    vanguard

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    You're probably right. I like the concept though.
     
  19. Jan 3, 2005
    Boyink

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    Just to circle back on this...the maker of the holder that Joel linked to responded to my email on size:

    QT wants $60 for those extinguishers, and IMHO they're just too small.

    I said I'd be interested in a larger sized version of their product, but am not holding my breath....
     
  20. Jan 3, 2005
    John A. Shows

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    The velcro idea sound good to me. Getting an extinguisher out of its holder when I need it would be my number one concern.

    I'd fab a little cup holder for the bottom of your exinguisher and then velcro strap the top of it. Mount it to the roll bar somewhere on a down tube.
     
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