Cutlas Hub Teardown With Diagrams

hello, im new to this forum I've been a reader for awhile. I've read the write up on cutlass hub removal but I don't believe I have the same ones. Can anyone tell me how these ones come off?
I've pulled the bolts 5 bolts and put it in 2wd the hub now moves 1/8th-1/4". I don't physically see a snap ring or any other way to get it off.

Thanks for the help.

 

I've never taken a Cutlass off, but after removing the bolts I'd be tapping on it with a deadblow hammer to break it loose. Probably glued on with gasket sealer.

 

I can move it just shy of a 1/4" before it catches ill load it on YouTube and post the video it says it's to big to post here even though it's 5 seconds. It dead ends with a metal tink. I put a flat bar behind it and pulled a few times nothing excsessive but enough to pop a gasket. I asked a few local jeepers they said probably a snap ring but I cannot see one

I've taken plenty of hubs off usually they have a faceplate with Allen bolt heads and it's simple. I started this as a redoing my drum brakes but was quickly into this problem. I don't wanna just break something when it doesn't need repair yet, of coarse I'll be regreasing them but Id rather keep putting my funds elsewhere and hopefully find someone fimilar with this hub

 

http://www.willystech.com/wt/cutlasshub/Pictures/IPBCcutlass2.jpg
Removing cutlass hubs

 

See if this helps.

Hub breakdown: http://www.willystech.com/wt/cutlasshub/Pictures/IPBCcutlass2.jpg

Look at this discussion starting at post #12. Actually Tim Reese (timgr) had some input on removal of the hubs. Looks to me you need to apply a little more pressure with the pry bar. Removing cutlass hubs

Wow Chris. Looks like both of us had the same thought and posted at the same time.

 

hahahahaahahahahahahahahhah

 

Thanks for replying, does my picture work ? If you notice in the exploded diagram there are two screws on the outer part of that exploded picture that I don't have on mine. I guess I can put some serious presure on it but it's gonna suck to break them. I put to flat bars one on each side and gave it some force and nothing so I guess I'll step up the flat bars to crow bars

 

I don't have these screws

 

I agree that's why I stopped when I did, all I know is it's a stock 1968 cj5 factory equipped w PTO front rear Ramsey pto drive. Axles are stock but off hand im not sure besides what I read stock for that year. It's been in 4wd low and plowed a driveway for the last 15 years when I purchased it off my father. I have been cruising it around w no issues but the brakes are weak so I decided to buy all new sets front and rear and just redo the whole system but the hubs have to come off to pull the drum.


I can spin the hubs and i even tried liberally to turn the 2-4 selector to unthread that but it doesn't seem like it wants to budge.

 

haha o wait that's why there's one bolt still in it?!?

Just kidding yes I meant six and mistyped but good catch

 

Am I the only one truly shocked that something is stuck on a 48 year old Jeep??

Seriously though, I think Howard may be on to something. The diagram is a bit different than yours, but any chance there is another seam where it may separate prior to where it meets the drum/hub? A good side pic of the hub assembly may help confirm. Might need to rap the hub with a dead blow or plastic hammer to pop the cover loose.

 

Not a video just a screen shot

I agree its old maybe it's stuck I just was hopeful someone has the same one I've put some force into it w flat bars and I did bang on it a few times w a dead blow. The black part is one piece I could see maybe somehow the 2-4 selector coming off but before I break it i wanted to do some research. If I have to break it off i will replace w warn hubs but I wanna put my money elsewhere when this project started as a brake job

 

Sure does look like one solid chunk. You mentioned it having been mostly locked in 4 I believe. Can you verify that when you switch it to 2 that the wheels actually unlock from the axles? Thinking maybe with having been locked in for so long that maybe the coupler is seized and preventing the hub from coming off?

Seems doubtful the knurled knob comes off, those are usually attached to the hub housing with a retainer clip.

Puzzling. One thing is for sure, no getting the hub/axle nuts and drum off without removing the hubs somehow. I'd probably set the selector to "2", get a big pry bar and see what happens...but then again, sometimes I break stuff.

 

It went together at one point and isn't a solid assembly. Something is holding it together. Is there a set screw on the selector?

 

I am guessing this is a earlier set . they just pulled off . well it took two screwdriver to get them free and they were set to 2WD