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making my 5 a 6

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by cj6/442, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. Apr 2, 2013
    cj6/442

    cj6/442 Sponsor

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    anytime , weekends work good. been hitting the rig almost every weekend , I need it for a Big Bear Bronco Bash in june ,,,,and the 'con run if all goes well .

    why yes Ray ,the use I have for that little custom guy is to make enough money to build another strong shaft for the 6
    .I"ll price one to build but this one might just get retubed at Oceanside Driveline.
     
  2. Apr 2, 2013
    Chuck

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    Steve - I'm assuming the DS has a 3" stroke are you planning to keep it as is or increase the stroke? Sorry if I missed it, what size lift springs do you have?

    Looks good!
     
  3. Apr 2, 2013
    cj6/442

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    chuck - lift is cj7 black diamond 3" and the axle is pushed back on the springs 1"also .the shaft I got from ray is a test shaft , I want a thicker one,and rocks is what this jeep sees most .with the longer springs I have more droop than normal cj5 .thinking the little shaft will just get longer since it has a double cardan ,I've made my own front shafts before ,no big deal, but I want the rear done right and balenced .
     
  4. Apr 2, 2013
    Chuck

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    Thanks,

    Just a thought, I used a 90's front explorer shaft, the tube is 2" diameter .120 wall. The stroke is only 2.5"

    I used the same shaft but added a bit of length and 4.5" stroke, this was set up for a 105 WB SOA w/stock wagon springs.
     
  5. Apr 4, 2013
    cj6/442

    cj6/442 Sponsor

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    CHROME!!!! calling jpflat2a
    vintage Jewel pieces
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    last of the body mounts bolted it body!!!! its now completely mounted to the frame . had to make up these brackets since there was nothing left of the factory mounts ,large washers will be used since the holes already in the bumper were to large .
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  6. Apr 5, 2013
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    well, it's a start
    never thought I'd see you on the bling side....
     
  7. Apr 6, 2013
    jeep peep69

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    If you ever need some jeep funds and want to get rid of the craftsman ratchet with the rubber inset in the handle hit me up mine just broke and you can't get replacement parts for it anymore.
     
  8. Apr 7, 2013
    HeavyIron

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    Hey Steve,
    Posty up a picture from the perspective of you standing on top of the corner guard looking down at the bumper.
    From this angle it looks as though the bumper corner is sticking out and going to hook everything it passes, gonna dig in like an anchor.
     
  9. Apr 7, 2013
    cj6/442

    cj6/442 Sponsor

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    alan , bumper is excatly flush with doved body
    Peep- good eye , I have both ! 1/2 and 3/8stainless steel lifetime. warrentee my butt,they don't make them anymore .now they will just give you a lame one ........Sears sold a replacement gear set years ago and I picked one up for my 1/2" drive . when I was young and dumb I was using it as a hammer I broke the thumb switch but I welded it back on. now it is kustom .

    5 cage is getting cut today
     
  10. Apr 9, 2013
    cj6/442

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    Hey Jeep Peep don't drool on the keyboard.
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    see alan no anchor
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    wood is good
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    getting closer
     
  11. Apr 9, 2013
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Looking good my friend
     
  12. Apr 9, 2013
    '74Renegade

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    Yep. Looks good. That wood should do the trick. :D
     
  13. Apr 14, 2013
    cj6/442

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    got the rear gas tank in yesterday .cage work today .extending B pillars to the floor .

    after talking to Nickmil,,,, I was served the bad news that my rear diff needs to be cut off the perches and turned down to get my angles to be even close enough for my double carden .that really sucks , don't really want to lower my transfer case at all. so I'm really stuck .
     
  14. Apr 14, 2013
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    I have a dbl cardan rear shaft and when I set it up originally I pointed the pinion directly at the output yoke on the t-case. It worked fine, with no vibration. On the one I'm setting up now I have it pointed slightly below the output. Not trying to second guess Nick, but you might want to run it before you cut those perches off. You could also just use some degree shims if you need to. Just my .02 I went back in this thread to see if you had a pic of the pinion angle and I didn't see one.
     
  15. Apr 14, 2013
    cj6/442

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    I'll post them anyway , I highly value Mr. Nickmils opinion ,but this little shaft actually worked great .I didn't think I had any vibration,and I drove it on the freeway alot ,,,,hundreds of miles to the 'con and dusy .
    how you had yours John is pretty much how mine was setup at a driveline shop .
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    rear 17*
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    my driveshaft angle is 10*
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2013
  16. Apr 28, 2013
    cj6/442

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    well drove Sway around the block with 1WD.still alot to do rear drive shaft should be ready tomorrow though 37 1/2" .,turn 44 pinion down, finish roll bar,tow points,wiring, and lots of detail stuff that eats tons of time,,,,, etc .

    I have to agree ,it's a great feeling to back something you've been building out of the garage.
    GRRRRR I hate the new photobucket
     
  17. Apr 29, 2013
    cj6/442

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    me and the pup
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    my favorite shot so far
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    Looong
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    my ford T18 crossmember and texas D300.
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    tucked exhaust
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    B pillar extended
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    remember this is a trail rig no good paint or fancy chrome here !
     
  18. Apr 29, 2013
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    I think I had a brain fart when we spoke on the phone. I need to recalculate the angles but reading this thread, put in the 5 degree shims to point the pinion downwards from where it is now and try it. I think that may get you where you want to be. I've been so exhausted the last couple weeks I think I may have calculated wrong and want to recheck.


    Sent from my iPhone
     
  19. Apr 29, 2013
    cj6/442

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    nick ,I threw the wedges in and now I'm at 5* at the tcase and 12*at the 44.and the driveline angle still looks like 10* ish
     
  20. Apr 29, 2013
    willys59cj5

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    The 6 looks great Steve. You are moving ahead on your build quite fast. Sure enjoy the pics. Look forward to finally meeting you on the Con trip.
    Ryan
     
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