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dauntless not running right

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mainejeep, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. Dec 20, 2010
    mainejeep

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    so i started the jeep today and let it warm up like usual, and when i took it around the block it was kinda spudering almost like it was running out of gas. ( and i have lots of gas, and a new pump and filter). wondering what i should check first any ideas would greatly help. as im trying to put this on the road as a second vehicle soon. and i want to be able to trust it...


    "your vehicle will take you as far as u trust it"
     
  2. Dec 20, 2010
    sterlclan

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    points cap plug wires....
     
  3. Dec 20, 2010
    chuck123wapati

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    maybe gettin to much gas, what kind of choke d you have? float sticking?
     
  4. Dec 20, 2010
    mainejeep

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    i have a pull choke thats all i knw... and ill be looking into the points and what not, but im pretty sure the plugs wires cap were new by the po before i bought it ....too much gas mabey, i did notice some gas coming up the top of the carb in the little jet thingy ( nice tech talk). o and i dont have an air filter may that do something? i cant seem to find an after market that fits.
     
  5. Dec 21, 2010
    kaiser_willys

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    sounds like the float level may be set to high if you are getting fuel out of the vent in the top of the carb..... then again you may be looking down the throte of the carb. fuel spray in there is normal and should be steady, if its not steady sounds like a jet is cloged
     
  6. Dec 21, 2010
    mainejeep

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    no i belive you are correct, i was looking at the vent in the top of the carb. not down the throat. would not having an air filter make this run like this?
     
  7. Dec 21, 2010
    kaiser_willys

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    it shouldnt if the float level is correct. the fan can push enough air past the carb and siphon it up thru the vent if it is set to high. a air filter couldnt hurt.......
     
  8. Dec 21, 2010
    nickmil

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    If you have fuel coming out the float bowl vent and this happened suddenly it sounds like debris in the float needle and seat. It will hold the needle valve open and allow fuel to continue to flow out the vent.
     
  9. Dec 21, 2010
    mainejeep

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    does anyone have a part number for the rebuild kit for this. i probably should have one if im gunna take it apart or is the float something that is easily accesed without all new gaskets
     
  10. Dec 21, 2010
    nickmil

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    Another thought is the float may have a hole in it allowing it to fill with gas and sink or gotten saturated and heavy depending on the style of float. If you're going to rebuild it then I'd get a float also. Napa makes a good quality rebuild kit. I don't have the # handy but a search should bring the # up.
     
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  12. Dec 21, 2010
    mainejeep

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    ok so i went out and checked around and did a little trouble shooting. my problem seems to lye on the start, when i started it i went straight to the carb and played with the throttle. i did see that the jets do shoot gas when i initially hit the throttle. ( good streams to me) there was no gas in the vent we were talking about earlier. (may have been a fluke). the carb was back firing when i hit the throttle until it warmed up. this made me look for a vacuum leak, the only thing i could find was the the timing adavnce hose didnt have a clamp so i clamped it. not shure if this fixed it or not, it seemed not to back fire any more but this mite have bee because it was warm by then. and my batt ran down because of a faulty switch, so i didnt get a chance to check it and of course at the same time my batt charger crapped out ( having all kinds of luck ).. i will try again tommorow or tonite if i can fix my charger
     
  13. Dec 21, 2010
    kaiser_willys

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    lean missfire when cold (pretty much normal) low voltage wreeks havoc on a points style system. that may be causing alot of your symptoms as well. iron out all the little stuff first, you would be supprised how much other problems will vanish once you get the little stuff taken care of (like the faulty switch) esp. if it was the ign switch that is faulty;)
     
  14. Dec 21, 2010
    mainejeep

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    well the switch i have is for the coil the po put in this huge coil. u can see it in the pictures its yellow. before you start the jeep you have to turn the switch on for a second and then off. i guess it charges the coil and then u can start the jeep. i really dont understand it someone mite knw y on here.


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  15. Dec 21, 2010
    kaiser_willys

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    on regard to the coil, looks like what they call a super coil. would be the first piece of junk in the trash can if it were me. and i would go with a oem coil and ballast resistor if need be (some coils require it some dont) why in the hell you need a switch to momentary energize the coil is beyond me!! maybe somebody here with more knowledge than me can shed some light on that one......
     
  16. Dec 21, 2010
    mainejeep

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    haha ya i dont knw either i got the jeep delivered, and the po called me later and said, oh yea you have to flip this switch on then off before you start it. this guy did a number on this jeep lol i think the name is gunna be frankenstien :rofl:
     
  17. Dec 22, 2010
    PaulG

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    Well it's not a ballast resistor bypass, only one feed wire to coil. So, if you don't flip the the switch, it turns over but wont fire?
     
  18. Dec 22, 2010
    mainejeep

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    so should i keep the switch on while cranking and then shut it off. or jsut keep doing what i have been doing, turn it on wait a few seconds shut it off then crank?
     
  19. Dec 22, 2010
    mainejeep

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    the way i see it no one can steel it unless they know how to start it... lol
     
  20. Dec 22, 2010
    JAlves

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    The coil is an Accel Supercoil (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ACC-140001/). The coil requires an additional resistor for use with points ignition. It is overkill for your application but if the secondary (high voltage) side of the ignition is in good shape, it won't create problems either (personally, I would swap it out eventually).

    During your cleanup, I would replace what appears to be a wire nut from the coil to distributor. Any corrosion there will be a big problem. Take the time to solder and shrink tube your connections. In the long run you will be glad you did.

    I am absolutely baffled by the "turn it on then off" switch. When you figure out what it connects to and does, please let me know.

    Good luck!
     
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