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T18/D18/OD locked up

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by bkd, Jul 26, 2010.

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  1. Jul 29, 2010
    Mike S

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    Things dont turn into a fine paste rapidly, takes a bit of time.

    That fine paste went everywhere inside the TC. And it isnt that fine.........

    Clean, clean, clean. And then clean some more-----the magnet idea is a good one.

    If it were mine, I would do a teardown, and inspect all bearing/friction surfaces well.
     
    Mike S, Jul 29, 2010
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  2. Jul 30, 2010
    bkd

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    guess my optimism was premature :(.....got the OD parts today and put everything back together. I started the Jeep and put it in gear and when I let off the clutch it stalled the motor, tranny is still locked up.............
    Not sure when I'll start the teardown, am really frustrated right now :mad:
    Jim
     
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  3. Jul 30, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    Man that is a real bummer. Sorry to hear it. Oh an frustration is the beginning of a tear down. :twisted:
     
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  4. Jul 31, 2010
    Posimoto

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    That really sucks, Jim. Before you tear the t-case out you might want to pull the top of the tranny and take a peek in there. How was the endshaft play on the tranny when you had the OD out? Since the tranny and t-case don't share oil, the only way for tranny parts to get into the t-case would be through the rear output bearing on the tranny. That's not likely. Could also be just coincidence that there was a problem with the OD and the tranny at the same time. Take a deep breath, don't let the frustration get you and just do it.
     
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  5. Aug 4, 2010
    jpflat2a

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    not that it matters now....
    but I also had with me a new OD lockwasher and snap ring as well as the bull gear and other items you already mentioned.
     
    jpflat2a, Aug 4, 2010
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  6. Aug 9, 2010
    jpflat2a

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    any updates on finding the parts ?
     
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  7. Aug 9, 2010
    bkd

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    still looking Jim.......individual parts are EXPENSIVE!!!!......waiting to here from one more source before I pull the trigger.. Border parts in SD and Novak have what I need but I'll be into it for $400+ that route
    This being a FSJ T18 isn't making finding a complete tranny easy either (kicking the dirt)
    Jim
     
    bkd, Aug 9, 2010
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  8. Aug 9, 2010
    jpflat2a

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    :shock:

    :(

    sorry to hear
    my people are all saying it had to have run low on oil at some time in it's life.
     
    jpflat2a, Aug 9, 2010
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  9. Aug 9, 2010
    bkd

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    yea I figure Murphys law rules again.......as you said in BB I'm glad it didn't lock up doing 70mph going down hwy 210 :shock:......it'll get fixed, just not as soon as I'd like
    Jim
     
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  10. Aug 9, 2010
    cj6/442

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    jim, on the phone with John at BP ,,,,,did you mention DonX ,



    THATS why it $400+
     
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  11. Aug 9, 2010
    bkd

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    all kidding aside Jon's prices were very fair, this stuff just costs a lot.....if I don't locate a complete trans through another source by tomorrow I'll begin ordering parts as I can afford them
    Jim
     
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  12. Aug 9, 2010
    80cj

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    In the 70's I had a 64 CJ-6 that I did a Chevy v-8 conversion on and ran a Warn OD to make the 5.38 ratio more highway tolerant. This thread brings back memory of the instructions that came with the overdrive. I seem to remember that the installation instructions warned against compressing the snap ring too far when installing it. Seems that it would have been nice if the snap ring was springier/stronger. I also worked on a friend's overdrive back then and can remember removing a snap ring that seemed too soft or came out too easy.
     
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  13. Aug 10, 2010
    nickmil

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    PM sent on the third gear. Found you a good used one.....
     
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  14. Aug 17, 2010
    bkd

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    have obtained all the parts needed to rebuild the T18.......got a used mainshaft from Border parts in San Diego for a reasonable price.......got a used 3rd gear and rebuild kit from R+P in Oregon
    big thanks to many members who helped hunt/pickup/ or otherwise facilitate the procurement of parts
    should have everything here in a few days and I'll update the build in my Kahuna thread in builds/fab forum
    Jim
     
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  15. Aug 17, 2010
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  16. Aug 17, 2010
    jpflat2a

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    glad you found the parts
    now git er done
     
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  17. Aug 21, 2010
    bkd

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    Ok here is the main shaft I purchased along side the old one. The "new" one is on the bottom, there are some slight differences in the middle of the shaft. It looks like it'll work alright to me
    what do ya'll think
    [​IMG]
    Jim
     
    bkd, Aug 21, 2010
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  18. Aug 21, 2010
    cj6/442

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    I see 5 differences,
    and I don't know if any of them make it NOT interchangeable
     
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  19. Aug 22, 2010
    bkd

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    looking at these closer while on the phone with sdcj6 it's become apparent that the "new" mainshaft isn't gonna work :(......snap ring grooves just don't jive
    guess I'll be on the phone with Border Parts Monday morning
    Jim
     
    bkd, Aug 22, 2010
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  20. Aug 22, 2010
    HeavyIron

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    That's a bummer :(
     
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