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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by unclebill, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Mar 28, 2009
    Patrick

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    Oh. I thought you posted the info on your plate because you were wondering what to put in it...;)

    Are you using 15w40? Does it turn over OK when it's cold out?



    Will you be dining with us this evening?
    Would you like to try the special?
     
  2. Mar 28, 2009
    unclebill

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    truthfully i cant remember.
    either 30 or 40
    and i havent tried to turn it over when it is good and cold out. I.E. well below freezing.
     
  3. Apr 1, 2009
    unclebill

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    update
    i got the rear drums off.
    the drums themselves seem to be fine.
    nice and smooth no grooves or anything.
    everything else seems to be in good shape but of course the cylinders are trash.
    the right seal has a leak and it soaked the brake pad with oil.
    i went to NAPA and bought the wrong seal.
    im just going to cut to the chase and go to KAISER WILLY'S for the cylinders,pads,seals and whatever else i need.
    i hope i remember to get everything i need in one order.
     
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  4. Apr 1, 2009
    unclebill

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    it turns over fine
    but it floods if it doesnt start right away.
    my carb is doing something.

    there are no choke or throttle controls hooked up.
     
  5. Apr 8, 2009
    unclebill

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    well

    I GOT BRAKES!:beer::beer::beer:
    i installed rear oil seals and new slave cylinders all around along with new shoes in the rear.
    the front shoes are fine so i didnt replace them.
    the front shoes WERE installed backwards by the P.O. though.
    so i took it for a drive up a nearby dirt road and promptly ran out of gas.
    i must have a leak somewhere because i put 4 gal. in it a month or so ago and only drove about 5 miles.

    the carbs float is sticking according to my buddy.
    so it looks like i need to take it apart and see if the needle and all those other doohickies are doing what they should be.
    but that brake business was the last really big thing i had on my plate for this.
    so all in all it was a productive day.

    new seats/wiring/brakes/fluids/bumper/ tune up/u-joint

    this has been a busy month.

    next is that pesky carb and my gas mystery....:?
     
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  6. Apr 9, 2009
    unclebill

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  7. Apr 9, 2009
    2manytoys

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    Did the gas leak onto the ground? If not you should check the oil, maybe the gas ran down through the carb.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2009
    unclebill

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    i dont understand why gas would be in my oil?
     
  9. Apr 9, 2009
    unclebill

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    ive read this a half dozen times and i still dont get it.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2009
    EricM

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    I'm not sure if this is what he is talking about, or if this is applicable, but if the diaphragm leaks/ruptures on some fuel pumps, it is possible for the fuel to be pumped into the crankcase. If the oil level were unusually high, it might have some fuel in it.
     
  11. Apr 10, 2009
    unclebill

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    ive got the glass domed fuel pump.
    down below everything.
     
  12. Apr 10, 2009
    Patrick

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    He's saying that if the carb is faulty it could be dumping raw fuel right down the venturi into the intake manifold, into the cylinders, and right into the crank case.
    I have seen it happen, but it takes a while to get any amount of fuel into the oil.
    It typically washes down the cylinders and/ or fouls the plugs.
     
  13. Apr 10, 2009
    unclebill

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    how do i check for this?
     
  15. Apr 10, 2009
    unclebill

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    i want to start looking at the simple stuff first.
    would small leaks in the tank/lines account for the gas disappearing over a months time?
     
  16. Apr 10, 2009
    CO64CJ5

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    It's possible. The fuel lines (and the tank itself) could have pinholes rusted through which might account for fuel loss, but you should be able to see spots if you have it parked on pavement. You might also be able to see wet spots on the fuel lines.

    Depending on how exposed your Jeep is to nighttime borrowers, you might also have a problem with the large hole in the top of the tank, which will handily accomodate a siphon hose.

    If you're losing fuel through the carburetor, it would mostly be while the engine (and thus the fuel pump) is running. In this case, you would probably notice (by the black smoke) that it's running very rich. If this is happening, it could be that your float level is wrong, the float could be leaking, or the needle valve seat is the wrong size, allowing fuel to bypass and overflow the bowl.

    Your choke problems could also contribute to this.
     
  17. Apr 10, 2009
    unclebill

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    the line underneath the jeep is wet.
    i need to siphon the gas out and pull that tank.
    is any part of the line rubber?
    i mean am i going to destroy the steel line if i pull straight up on the tank?
     
  18. Apr 10, 2009
    CO64CJ5

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    On mine, it's steel line all the way from the bottom of the tank to the short rubber line at the pump.

    Siphon out as much as you can, then maybe tilt the tank a little so the remaining fuel is away from the outlet hole. Then you can remove the line from the bottom.

    Or, if you're going to replace the line anyway (it's pretty cheap), you might just cut it off near the tank with a pair of side cutters, which will crimp the ends so you can pull the tank without much leakage.
     
  19. Apr 10, 2009
    unclebill

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    i got the gas out.
    tomorrow i will disconnect the tank and see whats going on.
     
  20. Apr 11, 2009
    unclebill

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    i bet it is the rubber hose thats leaking.
     
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