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Wow Look at this 59 cj3b,Bill is good looking

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by jeepaholic, Sep 23, 2007.

  1. Mar 21, 2008
    sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

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  2. Mar 21, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Yes, that is the one.
     
  3. Mar 21, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Last night I removed the plow set up as I sold it to Jacob (Jeepfreak81). Been sparying the cylinders with PB blaster but as of last night no luck yet :(

    Going to pick up a WT 30 later today and throw the knuckles on a NT 30 housing to put up front for now to get some turning radius.

    I also picked up a 70's waggy 44 front that I am going to narrow to 54" wms for the front. I got a spare 44 rear that I hope has the same gears as the rear 44 in the willys so I can use them in the front housing. I will have some pics to follow.
     
  4. Mar 21, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    The 4bt came with either a Th400, T18/19 (ford bell housing pattern) or a Sm465 behind them. The later two being great swaps for a flatty as they both have short adapters for the dana 18/20.
     
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  5. Mar 22, 2008
    brandon533b

    brandon533b Member since 2007

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    im interested in the axle ideas. where did you get the nt/wt 30's from? and how hard is it to resize the 44? do you get a blank shaft that works for a 54" axle? or does somebody make one to fit? thanx for the trany info it'll help.:beer:
     
  6. Mar 22, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    late 70's up to 81 for disc brake NT 30 (51.5" wide)
    82-86 for WT 30's (56" wide)

    I built a 44 before so I am doing this one pretty much the same.

    74-79 waggy front 44 (60" wide stock)
    keep the short side stock (14.69" which is .55" longer than a NT 30 shaft)
    long side gets cut down 5.25" to match a long side Early Bronco axle shaft (27.94" which is .93" longer than a NT 30 shaft)

    So it ends up 54-55" wide (close to WT width) and the spring will fit on the cast in spring perch on the passenger side, although you will have to redrill/elongate the spring hole 3/8" to the outside.

    All said in done all stock length shafts, WTish width bolt in SUA 44 front .

    For now I will be running wheel spacers on the rear but down the road I have plans to build a Full float 44 rear that will match the width of the front.
     
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  7. Mar 23, 2008
    brandon533b

    brandon533b Member since 2007

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  8. Mar 24, 2008
    xtrm4xjp

    xtrm4xjp Member

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    PMed you a link to a 4BT.
     
  9. Mar 24, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Thanks :beer:

    Got the front 44 welded all together :twisted:
     
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  10. Mar 25, 2008
    unelemented

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    poor some coke down the spark plug holes till it over flows leave overnight and instant presto unfrozen motor (worked for me)
     
  11. Mar 25, 2008
    sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

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    I find that hard to believe... The hot rod guys were talking about flathead v8's with trany fluid, break fluid, oil, kerosene, diesel, thinner, but not coke (coca cola right?) I think it would be one big sticky mess...
     
  12. Mar 25, 2008
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Sounds like a great idea! Tasty too!! 8)

    Seriously, the phosphoric acid will probably make fairly short work of the rust.
    Good tip!! :)
     
  13. Mar 25, 2008
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    BTW, Hubjeep over on JU has pulled the Nissan diesel out of his CJ7 (he installed it some years back) and is in process of installing a 4BT... you should get in touch with him.
     
  14. Mar 25, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    I think the coke would work but I think I would drink it all R)
     
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  15. Mar 25, 2008
    unelemented

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    Yeap good old coca cola
    It did work for my motor
    tried expensive products
    dragging behind Cherokee dropping the clutch (wouldn't recommend ended bad for Cherokee)
     
  16. Mar 26, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Still haven't got the F-head unfroze :(

    This weekend I am picking up some stubs for the 44 front, but the best thing is a rebuilt Sm465 with the novak 1" adapter for the 18/20 installed :D
     
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  17. Mar 26, 2008
    jeepfreak81

    jeepfreak81 When in Doubt, Pedal out!

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    We got the motor unstuck in this tonight, just was in a weird spot with 2 at the full up and 2 in the full down positions, topped off with a decent ridge in a couple of the cylinders.

    We used a breaker bar and carefully turned it over, then I used my ridge reamer on the top of the bore and then honed the cylinder lightly... I think it will run well, the cylinders were clean otherwise very minor rust :beer:
     
  18. Mar 27, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Yup with Jacob's help we got her turning over, going to order some gaskets later and hope to hear some put-put-put this weekend!
     
  19. Mar 27, 2008
    unelemented

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    good work getting her turned over
    Hope you get her going to
     
  20. Apr 1, 2008
    jeepaholic

    jeepaholic Jeepfreak81's fabricator!

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    Picked up a Sm465 adapted to the dana 18 and a hydro clutch setup, some alloy stubs and stock inners for the front 44, a early 5 roll bar, and a 225 bell housing

    Picking up a 225, swinging pedals, a tilt cj column, and some big brake parts tomorrow and Thursday getting a 71 one piece flanged rear 44 with 3:73's.

    Not going to do the diesel as I have enough projects R)R)R)

    So specs will be:
    225
    sm465
    twin sticked 18
    71 44 rear
    44 front
    saggy swap
    hanging pedals
    tilt column (so I can fit my big gut in there :oops:)

    After that is done a small suspension lift and 33-34" tires :twisted:
     
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