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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Zoomer, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Feb 7, 2006
    Facquet66cj5

    Facquet66cj5 66cjfive

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    I looked up the numbers on the engine 991503 and 1378704 (2 bbl) and verified them on the Tech page. I could not find the frame numbers after scraping them down. The rear axel is a tapered 44.
     
  2. Feb 14, 2006
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    I thought I'd throw mine in here.VIN 8305017 364511 built in March 1970 and has a flanged D44 LSD. Its all original too.:v6:
     
  3. Feb 14, 2006
    calvin

    calvin 65 Universal CJ5

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    Gotta make sure I'm not having a blonde moment. According to the S/N list mine would have been b/w Oct. Nov. 1964? The number on the title is 8305180919 verified on the plate on the firewall under the hood.
     
  4. Feb 15, 2006
    71 Muk WA

    71 Muk WA New Member

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    Might as well throw my SN up here. A 1971 Renegade II, 8305 017 373400 - Toledo, Ohio. Original color Baja Yellow.
     
  5. Feb 18, 2006
    viper

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    67 cj6A Tuxedo Park

    Just a note on the serial # of the '67 cj6A, plate on the firewall reads: 8422/10349 - anyone have any info on what this signifies? Thankyou
     
  6. Feb 19, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Re: 67 cj6A Tuxedo Park

    84= CJ-6
    22= Tux Park

    10349 = SN
     
  7. Feb 19, 2006
    viper

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    Thankyou, what does the number 10349 sinify? Does it explain the number a vehicles produced in 1967?
     
  8. Feb 19, 2006
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    No, it is the number made since 1964, beginning with 10001.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    just throwing this out there for the info
    I have an old Jeep invoice on my desk.
    This new Jeep is a 1969 CJ5 V6.
    the VIN is 8305017-351794
    the date of the Jeep invoice is 10-1-1968
     
  10. Feb 20, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Guess I shoulda been more clear, SN = Serial Number
     
  11. Feb 21, 2006
    Antique Jeep

    Antique Jeep New Member

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    I've read through all 17 pages having to do with the CJ5 serials...mine is a little different although I think I have it narrowed to a November/December 1965..........the serial plate on the driver firewall says 8305 203285

    There is a second plate on the passenger side that says "special sales order
    D-3834". This jeep was unaltered when I purchased it from behind a barn with a dead engine...which I had completely rebuilt along with the transmission, clutch, brakes and etc. The original paint was bright yellow and I have been told that the State of Florida purchased a number of these to use in mowing rights of ways along the highways in the mid 60's....does anyone have any more info on the special sales order jeeps?? email me at jenglish@greyforestutilities.com:flag:
     
  12. Feb 22, 2006
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    I have had two 'Florida' jeeps, both of which were 1970 models. I have seen a 1969 'Florida' jeep, but didn't own it.

    I still have one of the 1970 'Florida' jeeps, the other went to a fellow in Ontario, Canada.

    The Special Order tag that you found would indicate that the jeep was government owned at one time.

    The 'Florida' jeeps were sort of a Caterpillar yellow to begin with, had PTO's, were four speeds, and were equipped with a half hard top.

    Two things that I noticed about the windshield frames were that the clamps that hold the windshield up were not clamps, but small iron plates, and that the windshield frame did not have a channel for a soft top welded on.

    The draw bars on the rear of the jeep were reinforced and modified a little.

    It would be interesting to see some pictures to see how your jeep squares with the 'Florida' jeeps.

    It is a little older than the '70 or '69 jeeps, but I have been told that Florida used the jeep for mowing beginning in the early sixties.

    kamel
     
  13. Feb 22, 2006
    WYOMIKE

    WYOMIKE Oct 1971 pic

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    Ok folks, here is what I did. I did a whole search of the site and came up with all of the vin's, serial numbers, and built dates that I could find. I put these all in a spread sheet and then sorted them by the last numbers. The results were interesting and answered some questions, but then brought up more questions. It looks like around 1969-70 there must have been a lot of body, frame, etc. swamping. If I goofed up somebodys data, sorry just let me know and I will correct it. Also if anybody that has data that is not on there please let me know. Also if somebody has a different idea about sorting them or how to handle the "2" and "3" problem, let me know.
    Thanks:patriot:
    http://www.hdts.vcn.com/JEEP/VIN LIST.PDF
     
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  14. Feb 22, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Put the first number in a seperate column then sort by the second column only? Then remerge the data and hide the columns?
     
  15. Feb 22, 2006
    Zoomer

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    Mike,

    Looks like several of us are doing the same thing. I've got a spreadsheet going and so does $ sink. I'll check my list against yours and let you know if I have anything to add. I was thinking about editing my post, since it has become the first in the sticky, to included a list like you generated and also directions as to where to find the VIN numbers and how to decode them. I was also thinking it might be helpful to include additional info as to when flanged axles, hood reflectors, and side markers entered the production stream. I also thought I'd include the vin list for the earlier years also.
     
  16. Feb 22, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    We have a page that lists when certain features appeared/dissapeared. Why not just link to it?

    http://earlycj5.com/tech/general/spottersGuide.shtml

    I see a few changes I need to make to it but for the most part the stuff is there.
     
  17. Feb 22, 2006
    WYOMIKE

    WYOMIKE Oct 1971 pic

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    Sparky
    On sorting, thats kind of what I did. I changed all the "2"s to 3 and then sorted, and then Indicated which ones were 2. I should go back and just change the "2"s back to 2.
    Mark
    I thought that I had read where somebody was doing this, but could not find where it had been done, so thought I would try it :iagree: with some of your ideas, and Like Sparky says, you could just have a link to a lot of the data. If you want to take my data and add it to yours and make up a new sheet, that would be fine with me. I am a easy type guy8) I think what we need to do is to get more people to get us vin's and built dates :) :) :)
     
  18. Feb 22, 2006
    $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

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    Wyomike, what I did on my spreadsheet (which is trapped out of my reach for the time being:rofl:) is set up seperate pages for 2 and 3 series, willys numbers and a misc page for the tux's-cj6's-cj2's-cj3bs etc.
     
  19. Feb 22, 2006
    Zoomer

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    I agree with both of you. In looking at the spotters guide, it could use some updates as things like snorkle cutouts went away during the "early" model run. I've heard of both tapered and flanged axles in '70 model year. Fuel tank moved to the back some time around the '71 model year switch. The hood mounted reflectors appeared sometime around the '69 model year intro, rear markers were added I think around Dec. 1969 build, and front fender markers appear sometime around the '71 model year intro? I guess I was just thinking we could narrow down a little when the changes occured while we're taking the time to collect VINS. If people choose to contribute their VIN, it might be nice if they include info about things like flanged vs tapered rear, marker/reflector config, snorkle cutout, tranny, seat mounts, windshield/wiper config etc.

    The more people who contribute data, especially those who know their build date, the more accurate we can determine month of manufacture and also original build configuration. It would be great if this could be put on the earlycj5 site like the spotters guide. I suspect having more than one person working on this might be helpful. If you and I and $ sink (and any other volunteers) are interested in working on this, maybe Sparky could set up a temporary wiki to use as a central place to keep this info until it's assembled into a more finalized web page.
     
  20. Feb 22, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Like I said, I see some changes to be made. ;)


    A wiki? I dunno. I could set one up again I guess.
     
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