Serial Number Or Vin Questions

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

1. Vin #
8405s34182

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

Hey I'd like some help because the info on the document provided says a couple of contradicting things. Not that I disagree, just need some clarifications.
Amazingly, my 1958 CJ5 has the same number on the title, on the firewall in front of the driver and on the framerail on the passenger side above the rear spring hanger. This number is 57548 75021. I don't yet know what the motor or axles say as I haven't had it long enough to clean it up down there but this thing looks like everything is original. Obviously, based on a little research, this 225 wasn't even in use at the time. Interestingly, Kaiser only bought the motor in 1962 so naturally they couldn't have been produced with them. Some say the motor didn't get into the cj5 until 65 but some say there was a plant or two that took a Jeep here and there off the line to the "back" and fitted this little v6 in 'em. As a matter of fact, there is a story that this was done in '58!!! I'm not getting to worked up but the story goes (and I may have even seen it here, I don't recall) that Kaiser engineers saw this successful "conversion" and soon thereafter Kaiser went to buy this motor.
Consider this; don't manufacturers tend to up the ante on things like brakes when they up the ante with horsepower??? My Jeep also has 11" drums. I'm going to be looking really hard to find out the VIN on the motor and axles before I do anything major. Is there any advise or words of wisdom I should know? Please help.

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

Wow! Thanks for the quick response. You sound like you really know what's up and that's great for me. I'm trying to find out EXACTLY what I have BEFORE I go and do something stupid. As I said, I did not have really any time to inspect it before I loaded it. I had to get some money to him quickly, if I wanted it, and based on the details he was giving me (which somehow seemed different than most scheisters selling on the internet), I wanted it. These findings are once it's mine. I see little thoughts come up after reading a post so I go and look at mine.
Anyhow... ok, so are you saying the 11" drums are NOT factory issue or they are? And the motor was positively installed at a date much later than the Jeep's manufacture? Will it have the VIN of the vehicle it came out of?
Well, as far as the Jeep being "nice", I think it is. Especially considering it's age. It has some bondo (from looking underneath at the body, there are three little rust spots; 1. right rear quarter behind the taillight where the body mount attaches 1" wide by 3" tall, 2. passenger floorboard 2" dia round hole, 3. corner of passenger underseat toolbox 1/2" square) but I believe I can remove that and straighten the metal pretty good. It's been repainted (was originally light blue, now is maroon).
Honestly, I was going to build a really cool trail machine; you know, pretty twisty suspension and small enough to fit into tight places? but one that would still be drivable on a pretty day with an open roof? Thought this would be a good start on a fun project for me and my two sons! Now I may be going relatively stock (if not original) with a mild lift! Any ideas on it's completed value if I restored it completely? Any help is appreciated and you sound like the man to ask.
Oh yeah. The contradictions were regarding the number of the numbers in the VIN and what they meant. I'm sure I misinterpreted them but I just wanted some clarification on my VIN. I got the "Universal" part (57), the "open body" part (54), the "universal" part again (8) but didn't get the last 5 digits. Thought that next "7" of the last 5 digits meant 225 V6 until I saw the "last 6 digits meant sequential". I don't know. Just trying to clarify.
Matt

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

In the document, you will find that for the early CJ5's there were 10, 11, and 13 digit VINs. You stated your VIN is 57548 75021 which is 10 digits. 57 = Universal. 54 = open body CJ5. 8 = Universal. 75021 = Sequential serial number. Built in 1958 (68816 first serial number for 1958, 82877 last serial number for 1958).

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

Thank you gentlemen, very much. No big deal obviously, just fun to know.

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

New to the Jeep world.

Bought my grandfathers jeep prior to him starting to lose his mind. Was selling off his toys and didn't realize what he was doing.

1966 CJ5

Kaiser with serial of:

8305 176450

I am assuming that stock this was just a CJ5 4cyl?
Is there any way to find out the original color, engine, etc.?

 

Can't find the frame numbers on a '69 CJ5

Hello Guys,
I bought a second CJ5 last Fall, a '69 with the Dauntless V6. I checked the VIN numbers (8305 C17 355049) on the title and verified they matched the firewall tag before putting down my money.
With the dried mud, etc on the frame I couldn't see the VIN numbers on the frame.
Now, some months later, I have the body off the frame for rust repair and repaint. I have thoroughly cleaned the top of the frame rails on both locations looking for the numbers and I can't see any. There is no evidence they have been altered or ground off, I can see the die marks from the factory forming the frame rail flanges. This frame has the front crossmember from an intermediate CJ added, along with a Saginaw PS box.
My first CJ5 is a '66, with much heavier rust problems, visible pitting on the frame. It has the numbers readable on both frame locations, so I know exactly where to look.
Has anyone ever heard of a frame missing VIN numbers like this? I don't think it is a repro frame, it looks 39 years old.

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

I have a few serial plates im going to be ebaying. I want to confirm my data before i list them.
The first two ill be selling together they are both universal cj-5 the first a 60 and the second a 61. 57548-120212 ,57548-130026. The third an forth are both tuxedo parks the first a 62 cj-5 and the fourth a 55-56? cj-6. 8322-14311 ,8422-10006. Does these all sound right? The only one i question is the cj-6year. Thanks alot - Bryan

 

Mine's a Tux

Being new to early CJs I finally got around to checking out the numbers on my 66. It is 8322 11957. It has a floor shifter, single transfer case lever, chrome latches and what not. It has vents in the windshield, but no controls for anything related, doesn't even have holes in the dash for any such thing. It has a glove box door, but no box inside. Anything else I should look for?

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

Great article, thanks. i was wondering if there were any easy IDs for extra options that might have been available for it. Like bigger clutch, lockers/posi dual intercooled turbochargers?

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

I'm lost? Your Tux Vin 8322 11957 and my 66 Tux vin 8322 15272 indicates 3,315 were made in 1966. All researched info shows only 1190 66-Tux's built. Where am I going wrong?

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

It looks to me like ecvMatt's tux was manufactured in September of 1964, making it a 1965 model. Go here and check the sequential serial numbers.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Photos/SerialNumbers/SerialNosMonthly6365.gif

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Photos/SerialNumbers/SerialNosMonthly6567.gif

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

The numbers are the same on my title and firewall, but it is registered as a 66, year first sold is listed as 0000.

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

All right, 20 Questions, my favorite game!

1. VIN #? 8305 A 221857, A 221857 on the frame in the engine compartment
2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag? No dash tag
3. Model year registered as? 1967
4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal? Not sure
5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? Not sure
6. Snorkel Cutout on hood? No
7. Windshield Frame Configuration? top mounted wipers (2 electric)
8. Large or small front turn signals? Small
9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? Not sure
10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? Underseat
11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers? None
12. Windshield washers? NO
13. Single / Dual stick transfer case? Single
14. Paint and Trim codes? Not Available
15. Battery box cover on cowl? No
16. Bow sockets on rear body corners? No
17. 12V / 6V? 12V
18. Foot starter button / key start? Key
19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric? 2 electric
20. Hood safety latch / prop rod? no/no

Here's a shot of the right side wiper motor, showing what appears to be the manufacture date 9-30-66, the left one is 10-3-66.

 

Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

new here, just looking for some answers, please. have a cj-5, licensed as 1970, but vin is 8305 017 359825. tag in engine compartment clearly states a kaiser, but everything i find show 1970s' were amc. looking at selling it, so need to know, so we don't get taken for a ride.

thanks-

Mel