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Discussion in 'Jeep Truck and FC Tech' started by bigjohn, Jan 15, 2022.

  1. Feb 6, 2022
    bigjohn

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    Oh that is very cool! I see an m37 to the left too with also awesome. What branch was your dad in?
     
  2. Feb 6, 2022
    Dave Deyton

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    My dad was a Navy doctor. He was CO of 1st Hospital Company DaNang from July of 1968 to July of 1969.
    This USMC unit was 1st Hospital Company, 1st Medical Battalion, 1st Marine Division. His picture in Vietnam with his Jeep is my avatar.

    Dave
     
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    Jw60

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    If the NOS starter and the old are both 12v and there isn't much else to the electrical than gages and lights i'ld throw some leds in the housings and put a 12v alternator on it.
     
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  4. Feb 6, 2022
    bigjohn

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    Well that’s Very good to know. I haven’t even begun to dig into voltage conversion. It would be ideal I think though to go 12v for a number of reasons, mostly simplicity. And I’ll pick the starter shop guys brain to see if changing the factory generator to 12v (assuming this hasn’t been done yet). The other concern for 24v is simply expense. The safest bet for batteries stored in cabin is gel cells, and those get expensive quickly. I’ll still use a gel, likely odyssey or the spare red top optima I’ve been using, , but one is cheaper than two.

    Anyway The starter looks like it’ll be here in a week and a half. Before that I need to get a few things done to the f100. Then I’ll get the fc back in the barn and prep a better temp fuel system and prepare for hopefully some more run time
     
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  5. Feb 7, 2022
    Dave Deyton

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    I get some AGM batteries from O'Reilly's. They are AGM and are probably made by Optima but cheaper. Super Start Platinum batteries. The part numbers share the first numbers and letters with the Optima part number. Not cheap, but cheaper than the Optima batteries. With the 24V Jeeps, I bought 4 at one time. Two for one Jeep and two for our Hondas (they take the same size). That was costly, but I worked a discount for buying in bulk. Used them in my son's Jeep and the Toyota truck also. They have held up well.

    Dave
     
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  6. Feb 8, 2022
    jeepermc

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    Mine is fed from the return side as well. It uses a little reservoir similar to this https://www.malpasonline.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Sender-Units/Fuel-Reservoir/41333. You run the return line coming from the engine into the lower side port, the upper side port goes back to the tank, and the bottom outlet feed the igniter.

    Oh... The image linked above is upside down compared to how it would mount in a Jeep
     
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  7. Feb 10, 2022
    amboynut

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    Ahhh, very good idea. Thanks.
     
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  8. Feb 13, 2022
    bigjohn

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    Not much new to report. I did get the new starter…. And learned why the others nose cone was hacked… It needed to be about 1/8”-1/4” shallower. I got the starter in and it won’t seat. The nose cone bottoms out on the adapter plate. So now I need to think about how to approach this. The adapter plate is plenty thick though to remove some material on the inside without affecting the structural integrity. Option B may be to swap nose cones with the hacked one that’s the correct depth. I like that option even less. So I worked on other projects this weekend while I think about how to approach this.

    I did find the factory 24v delco remy part number in one of my books but that search was a complete dead end. No results even remotely similar. Maybe I’ll try and call them tomorrow.
     
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    Jw60

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    Are you sure you don't need to shim the entire starter out? You would want to check depth to flywheel teeth from mounting plane and depth of starter gear when idle.

    The old one looks like it had issues with the depth.

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Feb 13, 2022
    W2SNO

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    What's the Willys part number for the starter?
     
  11. Feb 15, 2022
    jeepermc

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    That's a damn good thought and worth a few minutes measuring I bet. The two guys I can think of that might know the answer to this would be Dan Devries or Craig Brockhaus..... I'll see if I can get Craig over here if he isn't already. He picked up an ECJ5 last year and is working on it, but his passion has been FC's for lots of years.
     
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  12. Feb 16, 2022
    bigjohn

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    That’a solid suggestion, I’ll measure that. I briefly spun the starter in its current position and it’s not even close to engaging so I’m positive it needs that gap closed. But I do need to measure it to see exactly how far it needs to come.
     
  13. Mar 11, 2022
    Rodney

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    Even 12 Valve Cummins use a pre heater in the intake manifold.
     
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