Pulling Trans/tcase As Unit

it's sat for probably the last decade, so i do want to look everything over.

yes, i've heard the engine run, but the transmission was making noise, which was a bit concerning, so hopefully i can get that sorted out. i believe the engine issue is just timing.

 

i was joking - halfway. glenn's backing me up, i guess i mighta been right?

 

OK, wanted to know the engine ran, so you did crawl under the jeep while running(blocked, all safety measures taken so you don't get killed, or maimed, or disabled) and give a listen/feel and the clutch does work?? I'm dictated by logic (like Spock;female version) and less amount of work possible, or at least be efficient in my efforts

 

If you’re laying under it to pull it, separating them is much easier. Like Ron said, they are very unbalanced as a unit and don’t easily stay balanced on a jack (or your chest). If you’re using a cherry picker, it’s easier to hook the whole mess from above and drop it as one.

 

If it were me, I would put the Jeep way up on stands or blocks. I'd remove the transmission output gear, unbolt the transfer case and bring the cross-member and transfer case down with the floor jack as a unit.

I hate to make a judgement based on your age, but some young men have not achieved their full manly size and strength by 13. I know that I could heft down a T-14 at 20 easily, no jack needed. I would just lift the T-90 down; not a massive transmission. Suggest you use the jack or get an extra pair of hands to help you, but it's easiest to pull down and especially to stab back if you can move it around with your muscles.

Note that the pros will pick the method that's fast, since they get paid flat rate regardless of how much time it takes. Less time for more jobs means more profit. Doing this yourself, I'd say take your time and don't get too anxious to do the job efficiently. Not needed for your hobby car.

 

I'd be tempted to just pull the whole tub. That makes the whole job VERY simple lol.

 

I just don't see how you can attempt without at least a floor jack. I'd hate to know I had to pull the transmission back out. I did everything with tubs (a '62/F134 & '68/V6) off. These transmission/trans case are, to me, incredibly heavy and awkward. I do everything with "Brains over Brawn", I have all kind of jacks, mini engine cranes, etc. I'm sure with your enthusiasm, you'll get it out, just concerned.





But does look like the TC comes off without too much problem oh, you shouldn't be drinking beer

 

I’ve got the same job coming next weekend, clutch replacement. With minimal assistance and a sloping driveway. After reading all this I am going to beg borrow or steal a cherry picker at the least to try to bring them out as a unit.

 

Awwww what's the fun in that? I've stuffed a SM465 in a C30 truck without anything but brawn-in a life far removed from the present. If you don't have a hard surface to work with, both shop cranes and floor jacks are a bit worthless. In Levi's case I would separate the D18/T90. Easy to do and cuts the weight in half.

 

Go back and read Rick Whitsons thread again,instead of a hoist put a 2x4 across chain to the eye bolt ,a guy on each end to lift and slide it back and down......lets go your burning daylight............

 

I forgot to add that part, Glenn. Like Glenn says I put a bottle Jack under the motor, and remove the cross member and lower the rear of the motor , keeping an eye on the fan so it doesn't hit the radiator to angle the trans down. Be carful don't get hurt, don't let it fall on you Tyler.

 

how about a ratchet strap holding up the motor? i don't know where i'd mount it, but it'd likely be possible.

 

Sounds like the hard way to do it. Any old jack will work - I have used the tire changing jack from the Jeep. I'd add a block of wood between the jack and the bellhousing.

 

i really don't have another jack, if i'm gonna use the floor jack to get the trans out. i need more tools.

 

4 Ton Hydraulic Bottle Jack

Or ask to borrow the jack from the Suburban.

 

When I’d pull them before I had a cherry picker (and after I got tired of manhandling them off of my chest), I had a process where I’d put a 6’ rock breaker bar (a 2x4 would work) across the door sills, and I’d stack blocks of wood on the Jeep’s floors to get the bar as high as I could against the steering column. Chain from the bar to the cases, and go side to side removing a block at a time while working the cases backwards out of the engine. Reverse the process for install, adding blocks. Still not as easy as an engine hoist, but better than just a floor jack it will inevitably fall off of.