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Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Abone327, Apr 5, 2015.

  1. Apr 8, 2015
    timgr

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    Check Parts Mike for your gear.
     
  2. Apr 9, 2015
    sgogpn

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    Don't forget the floorpan if its available. Modding your existing one or fabbing one from scratch to fit your application just adds to the project.

    FWIW,
    Mike
     
  3. Apr 9, 2015
    CJ5Jeeper

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    Speaking of floorpan...here's what I had to do to get a T18 to properly fit in my '72. Modifying the stock one to fit isn't too difficult as long as you've got a welder, a weekend, and some patience. Hopefully the following photos will help you when you get to that point. Also, don't let the trans rebuild scare you too much. I found mine out of a Ford, with a lot of miles. I did have to replace the reverse idler gear, as someone mentioned above. It was not expensive though. Since mine was adapted to my Jeep, I got the kit and instructions through Novak, who I found to be very helpful. I had never rebuilt a trans. before, but I just took my time, kept everything clean and organized, and read the instructions about twenty times before I actually began. For me, the hardest part was finding a "quality" set of lock ring pliers that were heavy duty enough and would open wide enough to get the lock rings off. The only other part I found difficult was sliding the first to second clutch sleeve over the hub because there are three poppet balls, springs, and plates that need held in while sliding the sleeve over. It's a job that nearly requires three hands.
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  4. Apr 9, 2015
    timgr

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    Cardboard is your friend! :)

    (I save shirt cardboard just for patterns. That way I have some when I need it.)
     
  5. Apr 18, 2015
    Abone327

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    Thanks for the boost in confidence and floor pan ideas. So I started digging in. I'm kinda bummed. It looks like I'm going to need a new countershaft gear and reverse idler gear also. What do you all think. Also, yes, there are 17 teeth on the input shaft. Thanks. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  6. Apr 18, 2015
    timgr

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    I would run them, unless there are chips in the gears. The rounding seems like a common condition.

    17 tooth is 6:32:1 first (wide ratio), but we knew that from the Jeep PN.
     
  7. Apr 18, 2015
    Abone327

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    Here are some more pics. It's kind of difficult to get a decent picture of the damaged teeth. There are definitely a few decent sized chips in the teeth. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  8. Apr 18, 2015
    tarry99

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    You could take a du-mor or any small high speed grinder and sand a re-shape those teeth a little........the ones with the big chips will probably get bigger over time as once through the hard facing it is downhill from there. You need to take that completely apart and flush all the scrap metal out........all the bearings including the needles are going to be junk after all that garbage ran through them..........once apart then look at each gear and see what can be done. Not the end of the world..........but that tranny has seen better days.
     
  9. Apr 19, 2015
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    Chipping like that on rev. and 1st gear is pretty common on those non-synchronized gears. The tranny would probably be OK to run like that, but you'll always have in the back of your mind that it might take a dump. One broken tooth is all it would take to take out the whole works. It will never be easier to replace those gears than it is right now. The T18 I put in my Jeep came from a Ford plow truck. 1st and rev. were really hammered, as you would expect from a truck with that kind of use. I replace my gears. They aren't inexpensive. Bought mine from Bayshore Truck.
     
  10. Apr 25, 2015
    Abone327

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    I guess I'll start saving up. I'm having a little trouble getting the reverse idler shaft to break loose. There is some rust on the shaft up against the case. Is it alright to use heat there?
     
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