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Ramsey PTO Action Video

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by mdmeltdown, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Feb 12, 2014
    mdmeltdown

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    A couple years ago, I got one of those calls I'm sure several of you can relate to. "Hey Buddy, I'm stuck in the woods....can you bring your Jeep?"

    Anyway, there aren't but a couple videos on Youtube of a PTO winch in action...at lease in the US, so I thought I'd post this up for anyone rebuilding or wanting a PTO winch and curious to see one in action.

    This is a Ramsey 200R with a single stick Ramsey Take-Off.

    Also, yes I know, we should have had a floor mat on that cable, and those rollers are a pinch point for fingers.....we had lots of Chiefs and not enough Indians on this excursion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwkegniv2o&feature=youtu.be
     
  2. Feb 12, 2014
    73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

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    Great video I will subscribe
     
  3. Feb 12, 2014
    piffey263

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    I want one now!


    why is one of the guys constantly pulling on cable? wouldn't it be better to not touch cable while it's spooling in? it looks like he is trying to get the winch to wind the cable correctly.


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  4. Feb 12, 2014
    mdmeltdown

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    He is trying to get the cable to spool correctly. Yea, I don't think it's an issue as long as you watch it. My dad was there and before we started, he told everybody that you can jam up the drum if you let cable spool up too much on one side because it will bind between the drum and the housing it sits in. Another interesting thing about these old PTO's is that the drum is several inches wider and deeper than the electrics made today. This means, it takes ALOT of cable. The roller fairlead on these is made of cast iron and the rollers are solid steel. All the modern ones are usually bent sheet metal housings and hollow rollers. I don't know if that makes a difference but you have to use the older fairleads because of the width....otherwise it will only allow the cable to spool in the middle of the drum.
     
  5. Feb 12, 2014
    uncamonkey

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    Sort of surprisd that nobody has felt the need to post about some of the unsafe things in the video, I'm sure that you know of them.

    It seems like every time there is a winch situation in my group of fellow Jeepers, (all of them have electric winches), in unison they look to me to do the job with my Koenig PTO winch on my 3b.
    "It won't overheat, it won't pull my battery down, you've got more cable on your drum"
    Meh, I'm happy to have it and it has been used many times over the last 30 years I've owned the Jeep, self recovery, tree removal, other people, hard top removal in the spring, etc.

    I have an old Warn M6000 on my Commando, self recovery once, snow assist once and equipment moveing once.
    If anything, it's too fast sometimes.
     
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  6. Feb 12, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    My Ramsey 200 has some interesting "scars" on it from where that must have happened.

    Re. the fairlead- mine appears to be the same model as yours but its aluminuminum (um), somebody did a job on it too so I took it to a welding shop & had it beefed up a bit- there's now a piece of flat bar across the top & the webs on the ends go all the way up.

    H.
     
  7. Feb 12, 2014
    davistroy

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    Wow ... my wish list just got one item longer ...
     
  8. Feb 12, 2014
    mdmeltdown

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    uncamonkey,

    "Sort of surprised that nobody has felt the need to post about some of the unsafe things in the video, I'm sure that you know of them."

    Yes, I agree with you, hence the disclaimer I said on the description on the youtube video and on the original post. At the time, several of us kept asking the guy in front of my jeep not to handle that cable so close to the jeep. I'm awaiting gunfire. I was hoping the disclaimer will help with that. Here a while back I could feel a guys blood pressure boiling on a local Jeep Forum when I asked what the song and dance was to turn off the seatbelt chime in my Wrangler. My point was that I was creeping through the woods, checking deer feeders and tracks and didn't want to put on and take off my seatbelt. You would have thought I was asking for pointers on how to club baby seals while smoking a cigarette, sipping Splenda sweetened coke, eating un-organic produce, and jay walking across the street.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2014
    73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

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    Whats the worst that could of happened? Couple of lost fingers, Pfft no big dealcrickett
     
  10. Feb 12, 2014
    scott milliner

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    I posted a winching video. I had all kinds of people commenting on how I was doing it unsafe even though I wasn't. I had to inform them of there errors.

    The weird thing is. When I watch winching videos I think. Wow. It's awful slow. Guest I'm used to my high speed Warn M8274-50 winch.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2014
    mdmeltdown

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    Winching it in 1st gear is very SSSLLLLOOOOWWW. I guess it's all that gearing
     
  12. Feb 12, 2014
    68BuickV6

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    Makes me glad I have mine waiting in the garage!

    Great vid, we all know the correct things to do. Some just chose not to. My wheelin' buddy never wears a seatbelt in his truck, I don't know how he hasn't broken his nose yet with the crap we do.

    How many feet of cable do you have on it?
     
  13. Feb 13, 2014
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    Great video, add another thing to my "must have" list!
     
  14. Feb 13, 2014
    piffey263

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    that makes sense for spooling the cable.

    do PTO winches have multiple speeds? you mentioned first gear.





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  15. Feb 13, 2014
    mdmeltdown

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    Yes they do...well sort of. The unit's themselves only have one speed, but they are driven by the Transmission. You can go 1st, 2nd, or 3rd and the winch speed goes accordingly. I haven't put it in 3rd yet, just because I don't think they are designed to be spun that fast.
     
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    That's a cool video . but I have seen winch cables break . and it's not pretty. I myself wouldn't stand near a vehicle being winched . but that's just my 2cents . just be safe
     
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    uncamonkey

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    Just a reminder, if you are hooked up to a strong anchor, you can pull stuff out of the rear of your Jeep unless you are paying attention while winching.
     
  18. Feb 13, 2014
    WorkInProgress

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    That's why I like my pto winches I have. lots of benefits and almost impossible to break or not work when you need it. I have one like in your video that im still trying to get my brother to finish welding the mount cradle. so I can again have a winch on my 59 cj5.

    and this one I pulled off my 59 cj5 that was installed and working when I bought the jeep but I cant find any info on as to capacity of cable or pulling power or model number. I had thought of installing it on my 48 cj2a but after fixing 65 years of abuse it doesn't look like a strong enough frame to hold up well winching even when new. cj2a frame looks like weak design and cj5 frame looks like it can handle it well
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  19. Feb 16, 2014
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    So, I've only actually used my electric winch twice, in recovery work. The first time, it didn't work at all because the selenoids were corroded (found out after free spooling the cable to the stuck vehicle) and ended up using the cable as a strap, more or less, to pull the vehicle out. Second time, I was sort of scared to stand there at the winch and guide the cable onto the spool and ended up with the jam and wedged the cable. So, what's right? Stand there in the danger zone and guide the cable to avert the wedge/jam or what? I'm curious. And wish I had more real world experience. Read a ton on the subject but, that doesn't really equal hands on experience. And, how come tow truck drivers never seem to worry about their cables spooling up correctly?
     
  20. Feb 17, 2014
    uncamonkey

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    The straighter your Jeep is to the pull direction, the more even the line will spool on the drum. At some point you may have unwind some cable and respool it in a orderly manner.

    If you look at some of the tow trucks, the rear pully is around 6 to 8 ft from the winch so they sort of tend to wind up in an orderly manner. some have a device that alignes the cable, sort of like some spin casting fishing reels.

    Perhaps a bit obssesive on my part, but after winching I pull some cable out to rewind it so everything lays in an orderly manner. No trapped wire etc
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