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Cooling question.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by GreenGhost, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Sep 16, 2013
    GreenGhost

    GreenGhost Never give up!

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    Will a electric fan the moves 1,250 cfm of air cool a 225 V6 with a stock 2a radiator all stuffed into a the 2A's engine compartment?

    I searched and couldn't find anything definate. Space is HUGE issue here, because I have very little to work with, about 15" of mounting suface on the radiator and about 5" untill it hits the water pump pully. I ordered this one http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/8376808/00017/?quantity=1 I had a 16" flex-a-lite but it wouldn't fit.
     
  2. Sep 16, 2013
    tomatolane

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    With a good tight shroud.Will probably move enough air.
     
  3. Sep 16, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    I don't have enough room for a shroud. It will most likely be about an inch or so away from the radiator.
     
  4. Sep 16, 2013
    nickmil

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    It's not just about air movement. If the radiator can't pull enough heat to the surface of the tubes and to the cooling fins of the radiator fast enough a million cfm won't be enough. I've see. Where the radiator was cool too the touch because if cooling fan air flow but the engine would still run hit because of this.
    Condition of the radiator and whether it is a desert or standard radiator will make a big difference. Way too many variables to be definitive. I'd try it, carefully, and have a backup plan to upgrade just in case.


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  5. Sep 16, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    I kinda figured there would be too many variables to tell for sure. I guess I'll run it and keep an eye on it and adjust as needed, or figure out something better. It's like my Boss at the gun shop tells me. "If it were easy everyone would do it". Thanks for the opinions!
     
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  6. Sep 17, 2013
    nickmil

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    Sorry for the lack of clarity. Fat fingers and autocorrect make for a bad combination :lol:


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  7. Sep 17, 2013
    Warloch

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    IF the radiator is still in good shape it will work. I ran them for years that way, just moving the bottom fitting over. I did have to have one radiator rodded out to get them to flow well, but it had been sitting for years. I never used an electric fan, just the mechanical ones on the motor.

    If you get ones with the thicker cores, they are desert radiators and fairly common on the 2As back in the day - they work great with the V6.
     
  8. Sep 19, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    Well, here is my attempt at the fan mount. I'm toying around with the possibility of an oil cooler too, but that is down the road aways.

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    What do you all think?
     
  9. Sep 20, 2013
    nickmil

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    I'd put some sheet metal between the fan shroud and the edge of the radiator to complete the shroud. This will force air to be pulled through the whole core and not allow dead airflow spots or turbulence that can hinder cooling. You want the air pulled through the whole core, not just the center.


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  10. Sep 20, 2013
    tomatolane

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    X2 on what nick said .
     
  11. Sep 20, 2013
    duffer

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    3x but it would be a lot better if the whole unit was spaced about another inch back. Even with a plate shroud, the air flow from the edges is going to be restricted by the short spacing, but still better than nothing.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2013
    scott milliner

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    My electric fans work extremely well with a flat plate against the tanks. At a foot away from the front of the grill you can still feel the air flow.
     
  13. Sep 22, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    [​IMG]

    There it is all set up, and pushing air though the radiator [​IMG]
     
  14. Sep 22, 2013
    nickmil

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    Looking good!


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  15. Sep 22, 2013
    scott milliner

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    That should do it.
     
  16. Sep 22, 2013
    uncamonkey

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    Pushing???
     
  17. Sep 23, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    Yes pushing air from the engine bay out. As opposed to pulling it on from the out side, which I think is a more effective cooling method.
     
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  18. Sep 23, 2013
    johneyboy03

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    Nope, it will be worst, the engine bay air is hot with the hood in place it's like an over, so you're pushing hot air trought radiator, cooling will be affected. Also on the road, the fan will fight the air that want to get in the radiator from the outside. Pulling is way better than pushing, and you pull cold air instead of hot air.
     
  19. Sep 23, 2013
    GreenGhost

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    That's what I meant. These smartphone keyboards leave alot be desired. That and my thoughts are scattered in the mornings.
     
  20. Sep 23, 2013
    tomatolane

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    Looks great man.

    Fans are way more efficient,at pulling air then pushing air.
     
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