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Serial Number Or Vin Questions

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Zoomer, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Echo in here? R)
     
  2. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Are you saying the Canadian built sequential serial numbers deviate significantly from the US built ones? From the information I've gathered, sequential serial number 215058 would have been built in May of 1966.
     
  3. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Matches what I found.
     
  4. kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Jeep serial numbers - if only we could talk to someone who was there to find out what rationale (if any) there was for serial numbers.

    For some reason, known only to the Jeep Suits, the serial numbers began with a "2" for four cylinder jeeps and a "3" for V-6 jeeps in the last 2 - 3 years up to 71.

    Now,I know that the engine size was in the center three digits, 014 - 015 being four cylinder and 016 - 017 being v-6 jeeps, and one would think that was enough, however they also coded the first digit of the serial number as well.

    I'm not sure exactly when they started this but it was in the '69 calendar year I think.

    I have a 71 tag that was definitely a 71 jeep that is 8305 015 279... I don't have the last three digits memorized, sorry.

    kamel
     
  5. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Mark and I are both aware of the 2 or 3 to begin the serial number denoting the engine. What we were curious about was that you thought the other was not a '66 whereas we both thought from the SN it was?
     
  6. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Agreed, 279XXX would be a late '71. (3)75285 was built in May of '71 and (2)79XXX would have been built after that.
     
  7. kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

    Re: VIN Numbers

    I stand corrected. The 215 serial number would be a 66 model.

    I shouldn't try to do these things out of memory -

    kamel
     
  8. scorpio_vette

    scorpio_vette New Member

    Re: VIN Numbers

    why is it so hard to date these old jeeps like this??? this is my first jeep this old, and i'm aware that there were several owner/manufacturer changes, but i just figured that there would be some old documentations somewhere. like old records that jeep dealer or the library could look up. no?
     
  9. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Ah well, here, this might shed some light on the situation.
    http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/SerialNos.html

    There's good records up to '67, after that it gets fuzzy as Zoomer's document indicates. It's not that hard to put a year on 'em though I don't think. We've enough around here that are documented. There's a few that might slip through the cracks though.
     
  10. scorpio_vette

    scorpio_vette New Member

    Re: VIN Numbers

    that kinda sucks. when i got my 71, the only tag left on it was the one on the dash and you can barely read it. the owner handed me 2 little metal plates in an envelope. one was the axle gear tag, and the other was the tag that should have been on the driver firewall under the hood i believe.

    i could probably post pics if anybody wants.

    oh and there is another tag that says something about triangle springs. it's like a sticker. the back of it has rust on it, and it must have fell off, cuz somebody laminated it to try and preserve the print on it.
     
  11. Herobi

    Herobi New Member

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Thought it was a dark grey, must be the light. Still nice colour because its not shiny, think the flat finishes always look better.
     
  12. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Thanks for the update Kamel. I was thinking you may have had some information that indicated the Canadian built models sequential serial numbers deviated from the US built ones (not counting the C in the serial number of course).
     
  13. lafester

    lafester Sponsor

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Been away for awhile...

    My vin is 8305 c17 356593. I can't find the MFG date tag at the moment, it is around here somewhere and I will follow up with that info asap. I know it's a '69 though, windsor.

    Is there a post somewhere with the tag info gathered so far?

    Chris
     
  14. $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

    Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

    Just a reminder that we are still collecting vin info. if you are new here or have not yet, we sure would appreciate your input.:flag:
     
  15. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    Re: VIN Numbers

    Chris,

    We've started a VIN project in this thread: http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444

    If you can find your build date, we would appreciate that info. We're also collecting other info regarding changes in the CJ5 build in order to help track down when those changes occurred. If you would like to contribute that information, that would be helpful also. Not all the VINs contributed have been listed in the referenced document, but the lowest VIN known for each month is listed.
     
  16. BOHICA

    BOHICA Whipper Snapper

    Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

    Not sure if you guys want it since it's an Intermediate, but I'll post up the tag for my '73.


    In case you can't read it, it says:

    JEEP CORPORATION
    TOLEDO OHIO U.S.A.

    J425441
    11 517 421
    J3F835?H12859

    Not sure what the ? is, but I think it's a T.
     
  17. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

  18. peiop

    peiop New Member

    Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

    We are looking for any of the following information should you choose to contribute:

    1. VIN 33884
    2. Month/Year of manufacture - no tag
    3. Model year registered - no idea
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (NO)
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? 25
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (Yes)
    7. Windshield Frame Configuration (no winshield)
    8. Large or small front turn signals? small
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? tapered
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? underseat
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors? none
    12. Windshield washers? no
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case? dual stick
    14. Paint and Trim codes? no tag
    15. Battery box cover on cowl? yes
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners? don't know what they are
    17. 12V / 6V? 12volt
    18. key start?
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric? no idea
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod? neither
     
  19. peiop

    peiop New Member

    Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

    1. VIN #8305017-352128
    2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag? no tag
    3. Model year registered as? 1969
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (No)
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? 27
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (NO)
    7. bottom mounted wipers with top of glass arched)?
    8. Large or small front turn signals? small
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? tapered
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? underseat
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors? none
    12. Windshield washers? no
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case? single
    14. Paint and Trim codes? none
    15. Battery box cover on cowl? no
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners? still don't know what they are
    17. 12V / 6V? 12V
    18. Foot starter button / key start? key
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric? 2 electric
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod? neither

    On the previous imformation sheet I filled out on the 56' I was mistaken, yes it does have shackel reversal
     
  20. $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

    Re: Where's My VIN? (New VIN Project, Please Help Out)

    thanks for postin, the first one says 56 the second is 69
     
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