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Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by 3b a runnin, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Aug 6, 2019
    3b a runnin

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    I've got some wheels that I am considering using for the tire upgrade on my 3B. Are either of these Jeep wheels?
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    front side I have 2 of these
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    and I've got 4 of these
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    They are 6in and I have bolted the last one pictured (I think) on the front of my B, just to make sure they would clear the 11in drums and they are fine.
     
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  2. Aug 6, 2019
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    I know the one with the ring is stock, OEM Jeep. The other has been call a ford rim, but the jury is still out...
     
  3. Aug 6, 2019
    3b a runnin

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    Your saying the one on the left in the 1st pic is stock OEM Jeep?
     
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    Yes, that type looks original.
     
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    I started a thread awhile back that I believe proves the type of wheel shown at right in the first photo, and also in your third photo, are also OEM Jeep. It is likely, however, that these wheels were factory-installed only for a relatively short period of time during the mid to late '60's. For lack of a better name, I call this type of wheel the "bump-lug":

    The " Bump Lug " Rim - Another Original Mid-60's 15" Wheel?



    The photos below comprise the most convincing evidence I've found so far.

    This CJ5 ad is from 1966:

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    An enlargement of the fender and hood area shows that the Dauntless V6 jeep pictured is in fact an early 1966 model, as the hood has the snorkel cover plate which was deleted later in that model year:

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    In the magazine ad print, the wheel is not clear enough to determine which type it is. However, I was able to find an original 8x10 black & white version of the photo used in the ad:

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    A high-resolution scan of the front wheel shows that it is in fact the "bump-lug" type. The bump at the top of the bolt circle is clearly visible:

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    Maury
     
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    3b a runnin

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    Well, I may just have 6 Jeep wheels, 2 of a sort and 4 of a kind.
    The bump lug sure looks like the ones I have.
    Thanks Guys
     
  7. Aug 6, 2019
    melvinm

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    The one on the right looks like an early 1950's chrysler wheel.
     
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    Old pic, The rims on my 1966 Tuxedo Park. I have since painted back to white, and have the full Turbine Deluxe hubcaps.
     
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    Bump lugs on an early 65.
     
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    The main thing to watch for is Ford (or Dodge?) 5 on 5.5" pickup truck wheels that have been cut out to clear the Jeep hubs. This was a fairly common practice, and these wheels are prone to cracking between the center hole and the lug hole. In this case, you'd see no raised reinforcement around the edge of the center hole at all.

    Pretty sure all the Jeep wheels after 1970 (?) were the style with the raised lug area that turns inward at the center hole, like two of the above wheels.
     
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    maurywhurt

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    I suspect you're probably correct regarding that timing. Jeep's use of the bump-lug wheels likely ceased in or just before 1970, either just prior to or shortly after AMC's purchase of Jeep from Kaiser.

    There have been several 1965 and later-dated factory photos posted showing CJs with bump-lug wheels. Below is another that appeared on the cover of Dispatcher magazine last year. It's a Kaiser marketing photo of a "462" Jeep. These Jeeps pre-dated the Renegade, and were only produced for a few weeks during the summer of 1969:

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    Here's an enlargement of the rear wheel, which is clearly the "bump-lug" type:

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    Great photo of the most elusive CJ5! Interesting to see the rear quarter reflector, and the peaked roll bar. I love all the passengers ducking for cover!
    I agree this is about the end of the "bump-lug" wheels that appear to have been introduced around the introducion of the V6 Dauntless in for '65.
    -Donny
     
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    maurywhurt

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    Yep, that is indeed a very cool photo! I'd never seen it prior to receiving a copy of the magazine.

    BTW, for those who haven't read it yet, the article about the 462 in the Winter 2018/19 issue of The Dispatcher is both extensive and excellent. Among many other interesting things covered, it turns out that Johnny Cash used to own a 462 - here are some photos of it from eWillys:

    Johnny Cash in a rare 462 CJ-5
     
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    Keys5a

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    Interesting story about Johnny Cash rolling his 462 early on. I see the ugly full hubcaps on it too.
    -Donny
     

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