Cj6 or DJ6??

A friend emailed me about a jeep he is looking at and honestly I have very little experience on the later ones...but you guys know about them, so here's his question:

looking to buy a cj. I can't tell the model either the year exactly. Seller said that it's a CJ-6 1967 but I doubt it.

He provide me pictures of serial # 8605 10062.

Based on my research, this would be an DJ-6 1965.

On one picture, I can see a shifter for 4x4 which should not be there for a DJ model, right?

It got the F-Head 4 cylinder motor.



I emailed him my opinion that it could easily be a converted DJ with CJ axles and transfer bolted in, but I don't have a clue on the serial number.. Is he correct in assuming that is a 65 DJ6? He sent pics that showed what looked to me like a CJ6. It did have a right side gas inlet , dunno about that being stock, and a hardtop. I can't post the pics right now, but might be able to in a few days once I get my new Photobucket account squared away.

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

sure its not 8405 10062? first two digits (84) are cj6 (83) are cj5's in the cj'sfrom64-71 according to Jim Allens guide.

 

Well its certainly possible that the title does not match the actual vehicle.
Have him check the top right frame flange (just behind battery) for evidence of the serial number.
First thing is to determine exact model.
Seems the model should be readily apparent from the pics.
Then determine the vintage via specific components.

 

8605 prefix = DJ-6
8422 prefix = CJ-6A

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Photos/SerialNumbers/ModelID67p5.gif

 

That is the correct serial number as is on the SN plate on the jeep. At least the picture he sent me shows that number.

 

Is he looking for a restoration project? If not doesn't really matter as long as any conversions have been done well.


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Yeah F Bill.... I'm just saying that possibly the serial number plate was changed on the jeep if the original title was lost.
That way it could be licensed again.
So I repeat the correct model must be verified first. First check the frame number.

If 4WD was added to create a CJ-6 from a DJ-6 then I suggest you look for tell tale signs of the conversion.
That said a trans-vintage swap could be much easier to detect than a meticulous complete swap from DJ to CJ.
Example: To check for trans vintage swap you might verify if its a single or a split bore type of master cylinder.
Pre 1967 = single master. Post 1967 = dual split master system. 1967 = both types.

 

Thanks, Ken... If you guys want to see pics of it he posted over at the 3A forum... Check the new posts and it should be right up near the top. Here is a link if it works..

http://cj3apage.com/forum-yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1351518869/0#0

 

I will post pictures. I'm now on this forum.

 

Here is the Serial number dash plate.

 

The number on the frame match the number on the dash plate.

 

The serial motor # 4J418884 ?

 

Motor:
F-Head Hurricane casting number look like 807895
4 Cyl.
With a 12 volts generators and Carter YF carburator

Differential:
Based on what I can see, I have a DANA 44 at the rear and a DANA 27 at the front.

Suspension:
6 leafs at the front
5 leafs at the back

A Meyer Hard top?

There is a product plate just above where the paint trim plate should be. I missing the paint trim plate.
It is stamped:
Willys Produced of Kaiser Jeep Corporation.

 

Yep that is a Meyer Hard top. Someone has added a RHS Fuel Tank I guess, it is under the seat or under in the frame?

 

Serial number on plate = serial number on frame
Windshield washer nozzle indicates a later model
E brake handle assembly isn't quite right -- but might have to be rigged a little because of the 2wd vs 4wd ebrake configurations
Lastly, the frame (tailgate view) doesn't have the reinforcing "V" going forward that the 4wd jeeps have.

So, I'd say this was a conversion of a DJ6 to 4wd

 

The gas tank on passenger side is under the seat as well as the one on driver side. There is no tool box.
I'm convinced that it's DJ-6 1965.
This year model has ebrake on the shaft. It does look strange, I agreed. But I think the ebrake was at that place.
I will take more pictures of it.

Is it a ggod guess to think that the drivetrain may come from a CJ-6?