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tip for Fixing a sticky valve?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by orangeaid, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Aug 16, 2012
    orangeaid

    orangeaid Renegade II

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    I got the Jeep running after 14 years but it has a bit of a miss on the passenger side. A buddy showed me a trick where you hold a rag at the exhaust and it will get sucked back in a bit as that cylinder fires. Weird, it worked like a dream and the rag pulled in a bit before being pushed out by the next cylinder. So is a valve stuck partiality open? If its stuck how can I get it unstuck? If I must pull the heads I can but would rather just have it work itself out. Will I damage the engine running it this way. It's the dauntless 225 v6 any help would be awesome.
     
  2. Aug 16, 2012
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    pull the rocker covers and turn by hand and watch the valves to see how much they move.

    Worst case its like mine and the cam is worn. see if its staying open, or not opening enough. not enough its the cam, staying open, valve. Could have bent a valve.

    If the valves are all moving the same you may have a burned valve.

    Pop the covers and see what happens first.
     
  3. Aug 16, 2012
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    A burnt exhaust valve will have the same tailpipe results you describe.
    A simple compression test can help; then compressed air introduced into the cylinder when the piston is at TDC will reveal the bad valve on that weak cylinder.
     
  4. Aug 16, 2012
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    What you describe is an open exhaust valve. It's sucking as the intake valve is closed and the piston is going down in the cylinder, normally the power stroke. There's no power because there is no compression. Basically three possibilities, burned valve most likely, broken valve spring, or bent valve stem. A compression check will tell you which one it is. If you have headers you can use a surface temp gauge to tell which one by measuring the temps of each tube, much quicker and easier than a compression check.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2012
    JAlves

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    Probably. If the valve is stuck, the spring won't keep pressure on the valve train and the push-rod may pop out of the rocker seat. If the valve is bent or burned, the exhaust gas will eventually torch a groove that will require a new valve seat. Then again it may just break off and chew up everything in that cylinder.
     
  6. Aug 17, 2012
    Walt Couch

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    I had that problem (rusted/stuck) valves in two engines 225v6's and I removed the rocker assy and sprayed with penetrating oil and tapped the top with a rubber hammer. Took about two to three minutes to get the valves to move thru complete up/down travel. You can also check the push-rods for straightness at this time.
     
  7. Aug 23, 2012
    ojgrsoi

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    I found this on a search. Suspected a stuck valve. Removed the valve cover and sprayed the valve with PB blaster. Reapplied over a period of about one hour. Cleaned the plug, replaced the valve cover and started it up. It released immediately. I suspect it had not been driven down the road in about five years or so. It runs better than I expected. Thanks for the tip.
     
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