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Fuel Tank Skid Pan Orientation

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by TexasBlues, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Mar 14, 2012
    TexasBlues

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    i KNOW this sounds stupid, but i cant seem to get the pan to line up... maybe its because the pan is from a 76 and the frame is a 75?

    is there THAT much difference?

    i could understand a difference in width maybe... but if i orient it to the correct side (filler on PS) then the ban is all out of whack for the strap and the attachment points...

    anyone have a pic of a 75 pan/tank/frame oriented correctly?

    TIA!
     
  2. Mar 14, 2012
    rreed

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    Strap? Only the '76-up (or at least '77) had the strap. The 72-75 gas tank itself bolted at the rear corners then one at the front middle, then the skid bolted up over it. On the later ones the skid/strap held the tank in (no mount points on the tank).
     
  3. Mar 14, 2012
    timgr

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    I expect the '76-up skid can be made to work, but it's different from the '70-75 type and will not just bolt on. As mentioned, the '70-75 tank bolts to the frame with separate brackets - the skid plate was optional - and the '76-on skid supports the tank. With the '76-on design, you have to use the skid to support the tank.

    Realize that nearly EVERYTHING changed for the 1976 model year. There may be just one year difference, but the CJ-5 was completely redesigned for 1976. Not much carries over from '75 to '76 ...
     
  4. Mar 15, 2012
    TexasBlues

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    well CRAP!

    i DID get the pan to fit after some modification, but knowing that it was optional makes more sense and provides another angle of attack....

    any ideas where i might get a set of tank brackets?

    i ll do a google search, but will ask here as well...

    hmmmm... i wonder how much is REALLY going to be weird with the 75 frame and the 76 tub...... darn :evil:... was really hopping that this would be more generic... SO many of the parts are listed as fitting right up... i.e. wiring harness is listed as 75 and later etc... jeez, i wonder about the motor mounts and stuff now

    mehh

    thanks again!

    i DO concentrate me frame oriented parts to a 75 though, so i have that going for me
     
  5. Mar 15, 2012
    73cj5

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    Most jeep retailers will carry the left, right and tank strap you need to for that tank skid

    I just ordered the three straps online to use on my new frame.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2012
    nwedgar

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    I would suggest that anything having a connection to the tub you get 76+ parts with the exception of body mounts since those attach to the frame also...anything to do with the frame should be 72-75, with a few exceptions you can expand on that year range (e.g front half of frame stuff can usually get into 76+ parts also, but rear half of frame is 75 down).

    Motor mounts are the same I believe, and I think your wiring should be fine.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2012
    TexasBlues

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    cool, thanks Norm....

    thats what ive been doing for the most part...

    when you gonna come over here and lemme snap some pix??!?

    you BETTER be topless today too!

    @73cj5... i have the strap, but havent had any luck narrowing down the brackets that attach the tank to the 75 frame... as noted earlier, the skid was an option and the tank bolts to the fram direct... i have found some pix and i have feelers out... we ll see what happens i guess
     
  8. Mar 15, 2012
    timgr

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    i suggest you make the brackets you need. They aren't complicated - just steel strap bent into an L, with a few well-placed holes. The rear of the skid bolts directly to the frame. None of the holes are going to line up, since the rear of the frame on a '76 is a different width from a '75. But the later tank will fit between the rails - it is often used for a rear tank conversion on earlier Jeeps. Look at Mike Boyink's page for some inspiration: http://boyink.com/cj6/gas-tank-installing-rear/

    The intermediate TSMs have good diagrams of the fuel tank, and the parts book will show you what components should be there. Look at www.oljeep.com for some manuals.
     
  9. Mar 15, 2012
    TexasBlues

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    THANKS timgr... i ll do that... im with you... thinking i ll have to make the brackets... shouldnt be too hard... i need to get a new crossmember/bumper for the rear anyway... i ll probably make one, so i can put the holes anywhere i want

    plus i have the 76 FSM... so maybe most of it will help... seems the majority of the changes were from the seats back from 75-76

    :beer:
     
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  10. Mar 15, 2012
    timgr

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    Don't assume anything about what changes - the list of what did not change is short: exterior body shell, engines, transfer case, front axle. Everything else is different. 1976 is the first all-AMC version of the CJ-5. The design used '72-75 is basically a freshened-up Kaiser Jeep, stretched to fit AMC's inline 6s.

    Cheers -
     
  11. Mar 15, 2012
    pathkiller

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    Wiring harness actually changed in 75, so 75+ is correct. Up to 74 the CJ series never had a fuse box, just a smattering of inline fuses. 1975 was the first time they actually used a modern bulkhead/fuse block style wiring harness.
     
  12. Mar 15, 2012
    TexasBlues

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    whew... glad i have the hole in the F/W for it...

    at least THAT wont have to be custom...

    one things fer sher... there wont be another like it anywhere!
     
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