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brake pedal stop?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by ronar, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. Oct 6, 2010
    ronar

    ronar New Member

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    On a 77 cj5...is there supposed to be a rubber bumper under there some where for the brake pedal to rest against when all the way up? Or does the brake light switch serve in this capacity? My pedal comes too high in comparison to the clutch pedal and am having a hard time getting that and the brake light switch working correctly at the same time. Can;t seem to get the brake light off with the pedal in the correct height. This one uses the round long brake switch. Thanks
    Ron
     
  2. Oct 6, 2010
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Did you re-adjust the brake light switch?
    I can't remember if there is a bumper on there or not. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2010
    nwedgar

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    Mine has a wide rubber bumper...like a rubber band.
     
  4. Oct 7, 2010
    timgr

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    The parts book does not show a stop for the brake pedal. There may be something that's part of the pedal support that is not shown separately.
     
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  5. Oct 7, 2010
    lynn

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    I seem to recall seeing many that had the clutch pedal and brake pedal at different heights. Were they like that from the factory?
     
  6. Oct 7, 2010
    timgr

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    Can't say for a '77, but the intermediates were at the same height, within 1/2" or so.
     
  7. Oct 8, 2010
    ronar

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    answer to my own question

    I finally dropped the steering column down and removed the bracket that holds it up so I could view the pedal and brakelight switch better (standing on my head).
    The cylinder shaped switch is mounted in a bracket which is not attached to the column or pedal but attached to the body above the column. The switch slides through a hole in that bracket, the hole having a springy bushing which holds the switch in position. The switch is threaded and is plastic. These threads act as grooves which the end of the springy bushing catches to "hold the switch in place. The switch acts both as a brake light switch and a bumper/stop to maintain upper pedal position. There is a tab made on the pedal which contacts the switch. Theoretically you hold the pedal down, push the plastic switch through the hole then release the pedal and the switch adjusts itself. As the pedal is released, the inner stem of the switch moves in, closes the switch to the off position, then the tab contacts the outer body of the switch acting as a stop for the pedal. In reality the plastic threads tend to give in the bracket pushing the switch too far up to maintain either pedal position or proper brake light operation. Also the tab is fairly thin and bends after many years of operation. The correct fix is to replace both the switch and that springy bushing, bend the tab back in the right position to contact the switch at the right time to operate the light on or off and still stop the pedal at the right height. I simply put a threaded nut on the front of the switch to hold it in place and bent the tab back where it holds the pedal height so that the switch is off when released and the height is even with the clutch pedal. Too much adjustment pushes the brake rod into the master cylinder even when up all the way causing the brakes to drag.
    Some of you already know all this but thought I would write it all down for those who don't. The switch is so hard to see up in there it is difficult to determine what is happening. Wish I had a good picture but don't. Thanks guys
    Ron
     
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