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looking for info on spartan turn signal

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by 72CJ5er, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. Oct 7, 2004
    72CJ5er

    72CJ5er Renegade Member

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    I finally got into the steering wheel assy. tonight. the turn signal is a spartan model scs-3r6. is this factory and does anyone know where I can find any info on it. I am pretty sure its gonna work, I just want to make positive before cleaning it all up.
     
  2. Oct 8, 2004
    John A. Shows

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    Does it look like this?

    If it does, it's really nothing to it. As long as the parts are there it's easy to dissasemble and clean and oil and make work again.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2004
    72CJ5er

    72CJ5er Renegade Member

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    thats the bugger, mines a 3r6, is that green strip a light? I think that may be the difference between thats one and mine.
     
  4. Oct 8, 2004
    dauntless_powered

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    yeah the green strip is a light, mine has it also, but nowhere near in that kind of condition
     
  5. Oct 8, 2004
    timgr

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    I expect that light blinks on an aftermarket installation. The Jeep has indicators in the cluster, so the OEM switch doesn't blink IIRC.
     
  6. Oct 8, 2004
    TigerShark

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    The unit is pretty simple inside. There is the lever, a 3-position switch, a light bulb, and a wheel. Four screws to remove. The green strip is a piece of translucent plastic to allow the light to shine through. The lever moves the switch into position, and the wheel drives it back to center. As long as the switch is in decent condition and wired properly, it should work. If you have a flasher can it should flash. The switch seems to be the weak link, since in a Jeep it is susceptiple to the weather.

    Jim
     
  7. Oct 8, 2004
    72CJ5er

    72CJ5er Renegade Member

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    everything in this one is in real good shape albeit the bugs

    I think I'll clean it up and see how good it'll do
     
  8. Oct 12, 2004
    schardein

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    Just for general info I have collected 3 or 4 of these things in various conditions. Some had the lense painted over and no light inside. I suspect these were from intermediates that had the turn signal indicators in the speedo. Only one had the light assembly in it, and it was from an early Willys pickup. It also had a mint condition lense that was BLUE. I used it since my Jeep is blue. Also, the Willys P/U one had an all steel chromed flat handle, different from the later round ones with a push on plastic tip. Also I have seen various wiring, some use individual bullet connectors and others use a plastic junction block with 6 wires in a pyramid shape. I think the intermediates had a ground wire attached to a piece of plastic that was screwed to the steering column. They attach with a 2 piece round clamp to the steering column, again the Willys one was different it used a stamped metal bracket that attached to the switch unit in the usual way, but appears to have been attached to column with 2 screws. Don't forget the the small spring clamp that held the wiring to the column. I have several extra of those. I have seen several wiring diagrams on the web, mine all seem to have a different color code, so don't be surprised if you have to experiment a little to figure it out.
     
  9. Oct 12, 2004
    72CJ5er

    72CJ5er Renegade Member

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    all you described is what I have except mine is solid and no provision for a lense. also the colors of the wires were different than the harness, I suspect this was normal as I too have heard this before. mine has the pyramid plug as shown in my wiring schematic. I have both of the spring clamps, the only thing I had to do was strip off about 6" of the plactic cover cause I had 2 wires that got hot and I wanted to make sure they didnt melt off the covering and short. this was caused I believe in part because all of the connectors were corroded and connections were weak. I had to disassemble all of the plugs one at a time and clean the contacts. now everything works great, cant wait to put everything in the tub.(hopefully soon):)
     
  10. Oct 12, 2004
    sleone

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    Do you know if those units are still available? When I bought my Jeep the signals didn't work so I just have them on a toggle now. I'd like to get a setup like that if it's possible. Thanks

    -Steve
     
  11. Oct 12, 2004
    vanguard

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    Steve,

    I don't believe the spartan signals can be found new. I run a signal-stat (trucklite) ss-905 switch. It adds flashers and moves the high-beam switch from the floor to the stalk. signal-stat makes other models without the high beam switch.

    As a side note, signal-stats will not self cancel.
     
  12. Oct 12, 2004
    speedbuggy

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    Wow- I am still using my left arm for signaling purposes.:D I suppose I should add a turn signal...
     
  13. Oct 12, 2004
    schardein

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    I have some sparton units in various states of disrepair. I got all of them from ebay or off boards like this. The most I paid for one was $35.00 I think, you have to be patient though cause they go for more than that depending on condition. Postal jeeps can be a source for these. I also have a spare signal stat that while not pristine in appearance works fine. The signal stat does not self cancel, but they do incorporate 4 way flashers which my 67 did not have. The signal stats come in a black coated or chrome. I have heard of the ones with the hi beam switch but not seen one.
     
  14. Oct 12, 2004
    72CJ5er

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    I still have the one that was on mine when I got it. its a "Everlasting" dunno what I could get out of it $25? lemme know

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Oct 13, 2004
    sleone

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    I think I'm gonna search and see if I can't come up with a Spartan-type unit that self cancels. I have turn signals now that are useable, so I think I'll wait and see if I can find an original type of unit. Thanks anyways

    -Steve
     
  16. Oct 13, 2004
    72CJ5er

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    np, BTW got this one fixed, and it self cancels when you reposition the wheel after turning. I didnt know that a year ago when I posted this :)

    I simply forgot this post it had been so long.
     
  17. Nov 8, 2005
    scaryjosh

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    they used them kinda turn signal in international 18 wheeler tractors if you go to a junk yard you can find one ... i got a nice chrome one for my jeep for like 10 dollers
     
  18. Nov 8, 2005
    72CJ5er

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    :shock:Holy thread revival Batman!:shock:
     
  19. Feb 1, 2006
    Desert_Valdez

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    I just joined the forums and I NEED this switch. Mine still "works" but I've got the guts of it all jimmy'd together. Does anyone know where to get one of these in the present day? Ordering online is optimal for me as I get nearly zero time off to go salvaging.
     
  20. Feb 3, 2006
    lynn

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    I stumbled across this Signal Stat wiring diagram the other day. Just thought I'd post it here for posterity. I have the same file in a larger size; if you want a larger version PM me with your email addy.
     
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