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F head compression

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Thunderpig, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Dec 3, 2009
    Thunderpig

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    I rebuilt my F head about 5 thousand miles ago. Runs fine except fouls plugs and could have the carb adjusted better. I let a friend drive it the other day and of course it seems different now that it's back home. Backfires and plugs are fouled looking.

    I checked the compression and got these numbers.
    1. 120
    2. 120
    3. 106
    4. 120

    Put a bit of oil in #3 and reading jumped up to 120. Means leaky rings or something right. What would you do about it.

    It's 8.5% off which is within acceptable range of 10%.

    Pull #3 piston and re install a new set of rings?

    The engine was honed at the machine shop at time of rebuild and looked smooth and "crosshatched" with the hone.

    I tried to take care in not having the ring gap align at all.

    So what would you guys do?
     
  2. Dec 3, 2009
    tcfeet

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    Is all the plugs fouled, or just #3?
     
  3. Dec 3, 2009
    Thunderpig

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    all of them look dark. I'm pretty sure it's a carb problem, carburetor is weber right out of the box 6 months ago. I never even turned a screw adjustment. Just started it and it ran and sounded ok. Maybe not as much HP as I thought it might generate but it was tolerable. Now I might have to tweak the lean/rich setting a bit.

    Dang Carburetors are the "Debil"
     
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  4. Dec 4, 2009
    timgr

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    Dark and fouled are two different things. Dark comes from the fuel/air mixture, and indicates that you are running rich. Fouled comes from oil, and looks tarry or more shiny. Adjusting the mixture is a minor concern compared to oil fouling.
     
  5. Dec 4, 2009
    Thunderpig

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    Dark then, definitely not wet and oily.

    Would water in the gas cause backfiring? Every since my friend drove it, it seems to back fire a bit. He lost the gas cap in a very light rain.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2009
    timgr

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    Backfire/pop through the exhaust? Maybe just too much fuel. I'd adjust the mixture and see if it goes away.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2009
    Thunderpig

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    That's what I'm gonna try. Let me get the tire back on first just in case the dam thing tries to run good for a few seconds... I'd hate to have a tire off during those brief moments!R)
     
  8. Dec 4, 2009
    Thunderpig

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    Does anybody think I ought to add some of that oil additive that supposedly improves compression? Supposedly fills in gaps in cylinder and rings?
     
  9. Dec 4, 2009
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    no, just snake oil in my opinion.
    you might pull it out and inspect the rings.
    maybe one broke upon install ????
    could be several things...
     
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