Body mount help. What is this supposed to look like?

I imagine there's supposed to be a body mount here....


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as far as I know, the body mount pictured next to the header collector is the correct one. there are none any further forward that that. There was a strip of something (wood/rubber, I forget) that sat under the front edge of the body, where it ended, below the firewall. In the first photo, it would have been directly above & behind the three bolts that hold the steering box on. It was no mount, just a sort of shim to keep the body off of the frame.

 

My CJ-6 has this mount - not sure if the earlier Jeeps do. I think they do.



You recognize where this is? Looks like your headers go through where my clutch bellcrank is.

 

Thanks guys that's good news

 

I can get you a pic tomorrow if you need it. It clearly shows the light metal bracket which is welded to the hat channel. Originally it had a thin piece of rubber that was stapled to the thin bracket. But like said earlier, now with polly tub mounts, it doesn't touch the frame so I didn't put the rubber on. May glue one in there just for kicks tho .

 

I am replaceing my at this time.
Here is a picture of it.
The old first.


And the new ones.




Andrew

 

Andrew, your before pictures look bad but mine is worse I'm afraid.

Where did you get your channel?

Thanks!

 

timgr, I don't quite picture where that is. Looks like it's inside the frame and my headers are outside...?

 

David
I got my channel from here
http://www.classicent.com/

Andrew

 

I am getting ready to do the same process. Couple questions. After you sandblasted were the orginal hat channel welds easy to see so you could drill them out? Did you replace full floor pans or just use replacement pieces? Where did you get the replacement nut holders that I see that hold the transmission floor cover pieces on.

 

I did not sandblast first, just used a wire wheel, and it still was hard to see all the spot welds. Did not try to remove the complete hat at one time, cut it into 3 pieces. My floor pans were ok, just needs a small piece ware one of the bolts came through.
I sand blasted after I got the channels removed.
The square nut i got at my local TrueValue hardware. You also can get at Restoration Specialities.

Andrew

 

Interesting....

So, I've got the body of my '74 CJ-6 off of the frame, and was going to order new hat channels, for a couple of reasons. 1) There seems to be some small damage to one of them. 2) When the body came off the frame, under each door/side there was a piece stuck to the frame that I assumed was part of the hat channel. Well, when looking at the body, as well as the picture of the new hat channel (which I haven't ordered yet), I can't seem to understand what the piece on the frame is/was. It had a bolt and rubber bushing going through it. It was oriented in line with the frame. When it came off, it looked like it took a piece of the body with it, but with the body off, I can't seem to find the damaged area?

So, is it a good idea to buy new hat channels anyways. I've got some damage on the driver side, and minor damage on the pass side. Most of the channels are pretty decent though. Since the body's off, is this a good investment, even if a little overkill?

Also, is there another piece that I need to look into that looks like a hat channel, but isn't? (The piece that was left on the frame?)

 

No pics at this time. Took the camera down to the body shop yesterday, but didn't get a chance to take the pics, as it was too dark by the time I got there.

The piece I'm referring to doesn't seem to have a "place" on the body, but it was painted body color. I just need to flip the tub over and look closer. All I know is that when the body came off, a piece was left behind on under both body sides...under the door. When I saw that, I figured "there's the section of damaged hat channel that prompted the whole body removal." Then, I looked at the body yesterday, under questionable light but it seems to me that the hat channels both looked complete (with some damage) and consistent with the picture of the replacements from the Classic Ent web site. So, I thought to myself, "if the hat channels on the Jeep look just like the ones on the web site, then what the heck are these pieces."

 

Yes sir! Not going for a complete resto....just want it solid and mostly straight. I'm burning money fast, so a perfect body is not in the budget. I just want it better than it came off. If there's a wrinkle in the metal here and there, then fine. That's all my budget will allow. That being said, I do want all the "working parts" to be solid and functional. This means the body mounts should be good, fenders shouldn't flop around, etc.

 

Yeah....I'll get it figured out. My cousin's body shop is a business, and not a hobby. So, that means that he makes money on insurance work, and will squeeze in a "project" from time to time. Apparently, project vehicles (Classic cars, muscle cars, etc.) are the bane of most paint and body shops....no money in it, but tons of work! That in and of itself I'm ok with. However, I'm the "Jeep" guy in the family, he's "body guy." I'm the one that hits the catalogs, web sites, forums, etc. trying to learn more about my ride. Not that he doesn't know his stuff, but he's got 10 jobs a week that pay his bills, while my project is an indulgence!

 

Here's what its supposed to look like. The little pad up front only rests on the frame. Like Patrick I used poly mounts so mine doesn't even touch any more.