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Upgrading Steer Linkage.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by panzer, Aug 24, 2009.

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  1. Sep 21, 2009
    duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

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    Another solution to a one pice tie rod is to find a 2 hole right side knuckle and run the drag link direct. It does away with the double tie rod end and gives more spring clearence. I am pretty sure all the knuckles for the closed knuckle diffs (25/27/44) interchange. I used a knuckle from a 63 wagon and made the tie rod from an intermediate CJ5 by shortening it and threading it about 1.5 inches deeper. I think these are 11/16-18 thread and taps are available from any of the industrial supply houses (ENCO, MSC, etc).
     
    duffer, Sep 21, 2009
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  2. Sep 21, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Here you go. As stated the down tube is from the original setup till I
    get the new one machined.

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    panzer, Sep 21, 2009
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  3. Sep 21, 2009
    alex211

    alex211 Member

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    That looks a lot better than the original design. Does anyone know why they did it with all the extra TREs?
     
    alex211, Sep 21, 2009
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  4. Sep 21, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks just like mine.;)
     
    Patrick, Sep 21, 2009
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  5. Sep 21, 2009
    jasonjp62

    jasonjp62 Member

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    And mine.....minus I have a snagy steering box.
     
    jasonjp62, Sep 21, 2009
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  6. Sep 21, 2009
    BlueComet

    BlueComet 1962 JEEP CJ-5

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    I'll bet the extra long tube was for use with Herm's steering conversion kit.
     
    BlueComet, Sep 21, 2009
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  7. Sep 21, 2009
    alex211

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    Will his tie rod kit work with a saggy box in front of the cross member? That's what I'm doing this winter.
     
    alex211, Sep 21, 2009
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  8. Sep 21, 2009
    uncamonkey

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    Sort of an off topic here but as long as you are doing steering stuff, ( and looking at your steering knuckle seals), you might as well check out your king pin bearings.
    I was sort of surprised at what I found.
     
    uncamonkey, Sep 21, 2009
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  9. Sep 22, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Same amount of TRE's. Just a different layout for the tubes.

    Probably did it for independent travel for the front wheels.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2009
    panzer, Sep 22, 2009
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  10. Sep 22, 2009
    jasonjp62

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    I cut a hole and sleeved the cross member and run the steering shaft thru the cross member. there are several post on here of ways it has been done. I love the end results of how it steers and handles.
     
    jasonjp62, Sep 22, 2009
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  11. Sep 22, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I understand that's what many do for the Saginaw box, but how does it pertain to the one piece tie rod with Ross steering?
     
    Patrick, Sep 22, 2009
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  12. Sep 22, 2009
    jasonjp62

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    Alex211 ask if the kit would would work with the snagy box.....Sorry I will shut up now.
     
    jasonjp62, Sep 22, 2009
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  13. Sep 22, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh. Did you answer that question?
     
    Patrick, Sep 22, 2009
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  14. Sep 22, 2009
    alex211

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    I was under the impression that I could mount the box lower and run the shaft under the cross member using Mcruff's spud shaft. I'm still learning, there is so much info on the swap, its just hard to find it all.
     
    alex211, Sep 22, 2009
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  15. Sep 22, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You certainly can. We're getting off topic here though.
     
    Patrick, Sep 22, 2009
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  16. Sep 22, 2009
    SIDSCJ

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    Looks good. As my t/rod ends only have 25 miles on them, one thinks I could buy the one long piece and be done for less than the price of his kit??? Not sure I'd drop the coin if I had to modify my new parts to make them fit...................That's why I asked in my earlier post if this was a direct replacement. Evidently it's a little "indirect".
     
    SIDSCJ, Sep 22, 2009
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  17. Sep 22, 2009
    Patrick

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    I bought the tie rod end (with the hole) and long tie rod from Advance Adapters, and used the RH factory tie rod for the drag link (bell crank to tie rod).It was just the right length.
    I think it cost me right at $100, but that was 6 or 8 years ago.
     
    Patrick, Sep 22, 2009
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  18. Sep 22, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    You can buy just the parts from Herm.

    My friend called Herm and asked about the down tube. Seems it was
    cut for the Saginaw setup. So the way I fixed it is the permanent way
    to do it. So I don't think I will pursue the making the down tube fit.

    From Herms site. Reuse your TRE's.

    #6830 - Long Tie Rod, Extra Heavy 1" Thick-wall Tube (35 1/2" length), jam nuts included. - $45
     
    panzer, Sep 22, 2009
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  19. Sep 22, 2009
    mortten

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    Hem's kit is the one I used with my Saggy swap
     
    mortten, Sep 22, 2009
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  20. Oct 27, 2009
    NoFlyZone

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    Trying to decide on my steering while I do my V6 swap into my CJ3a. For some I reason I like the Ross? I think I will do this upgrade along with the V6 Ross box.
     
    NoFlyZone, Oct 27, 2009
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