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225 intake casting B1369905-stock?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jccity6, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. Aug 20, 2009
    jccity6

    jccity6 knucklehead

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    Trying to see if anyone knows if this casting number makes this intake a stock intake for a 225 or from a different vehicle and was slapped on. Some faily funky stuff ont this project so I just want to see what I am working with. I have already verified the casting of the block (thanks to the tech page).
    http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx358/jccity6/P7190032.jpg
    as always..thanks
    JC:flag:
     
  2. Aug 20, 2009
    69CJ5inWI

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    Hard to read but pretty sure mine is 1378704-E.
    I am confident it is stock.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2009
    Mcruff

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    That looks like the stock manifold. Never seen vaccum hoses plumb exactly that way but the manifold looks just like any other 225 manifold.
     
  4. Aug 20, 2009
    Patrick

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    Doesn't look like a stock Jeep 225 manifold. That looks to be a 1 barrel manifold/ carb.
    The thermostat housing is different than a Jeep 225 unit as well.
     
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    Patrick

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    The stock intake doesn't have the holes to mount the coil there, either. At least the ones I've seen don't.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2009
    Mcruff

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    Yep, hadn't even paid attention to the carb was looking more at the manifold. I have seen a couple of the thermostat housing s like that, may have been swapped though, they were on junkyard jeeps.
     
  7. Aug 20, 2009
    timgr

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    From the OP's other thread, it's a BOP bellhousing, so I'd guess it's a 225 from a '62-63 (?) Buick car. IIRC the 225 used a 1V in this application.
     
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    Patrick

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    Yes.
     
  9. Aug 20, 2009
    mike starck

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    Tim ,could also be a 198 c.i. early buick they had 1 bb. or did they have diff. bell housing pattern? your thought.
    Tim, SORRY, i went and looked at manual.you are so right.my bad.to many coors over many years.

    mike
     
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    Mcruff

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    Different bellhousing then the 225.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2009
    jccity6

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    OK, so based on the casting #s I know it is a 225 block but sounds like it is not a 225 intake. What other options could it be? Sounds like maybe could be from a 198. Does anyone recognize the casting #B1369905.
    Thanks again
     
  12. Aug 20, 2009
    mike starck

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    What Tim said. 62-63 Buick 225 w/ single barrel carb.really can't be anything else. The question is why would you want to use that on a Dauntles V6.

    Mike S.
     
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    jccity6

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    found this on Wikipedia:
    This engine was used in Buick's intermediate-sized Special and Skylark models from 1964 to 1967 and Oldsmobile's mid-sized F-85/Cutlass models for 1964 and 1965. Throughout this period, the 225 cubic-inch V6 featured a one-barrel carburetor and was rated at 155 horsepower-exactly the same rating as the base version of the 215 cubic-inch aluminum V8 used from 1961 to 1963.
    Now, pardon my stupidity but is there any difference from the Buick 225 and the "Dauntless" 225 other than the name and the fact theat Kaiser-Jeep was the one using the same Buick engine?
     
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    timgr

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    Looks like an aftermarket engine-to-transmission adapter too. Seems likely that this Jeep was delivered as a F134 and the Buick engine was swapped in.
     
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    timgr

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    It's the same except for the Jeep engine has a 2V carburetor and manifold. Maybe some minor details changed, but basically the same engine.

    Kaiser wasn't just using this engine ... they bought the rights and tooling for the 225 V6 from GM, and AMC later sold it back.
     
  16. Aug 20, 2009
    jccity6

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    I have a T-90 trans, so do you think it is the bellhousing that is not original or did the T-90 to a 225 need an adapter anyway reguardless of bellhousing?
     
  17. Aug 20, 2009
    uncamonkey

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    Golly, I have one too off of my spare 225.
    [​IMG]
    Guessing it's out of a car, but it does have a flywheel and bushng.
    [​IMG]
    Had a clutch fan as well.
    I believe that it needs an adapter.
    If I remember, the 198 and 225 could use the same intake manifolds.
     
  18. Aug 20, 2009
    uncamonkey

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    The t-90 needs an adapter to the 225.
    They were 2" blocks that were machined to match the tranny to the stock bellhousing or an aftermarket bellhousing could be ordered which did the same thing.
    [​IMG]
    Off of my spare 225, which I think came out of a car.
     
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    Mcruff

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    The t90 was never paired with the 225 from the factory. This would seem to prove that the motor was swapped into the jeep. As the t90 was mated to the F134.
     
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