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Need Help/Ideas with Spare Tire/Gas can Setup

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Fhead Guy, Aug 27, 2004.

  1. Aug 27, 2004
    Fhead Guy

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    Guys-

    I posted a pic of a Kayline Spare tire/Gas Can setup I bought for Percival over in the Member's forum listed as Spare Tire/Gas can Setup.

    I bought it off Ebay last year when I had the Jeep apart for resto from a guy who said he had it on his "Early CJ5" ('71 if I remember correctly), and he didn't need to do any drilling to mount it.

    Now that I have Percival on the road, I'd like to mount it so I can carry a spare (the old bias ply tires on the guy are at least 10 years old). The problem is, I can't see how I could mount this without not only drilling holes, but fabricating some sort of mount or adapter.

    Am I missing something? Does anyone have one of these on an Early CJ5 (Percival's a '59)

    Thanks in Advance-

    Eck
     
  2. Aug 27, 2004
    timgr

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    The article on universal5.com has some pretty good pictures of Kayline racks.
     
  3. Aug 27, 2004
    Boyink

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    Hmmm...if you hold it up to the rear of the Jeep, do the bolt holes line up with the rivets where the crossmember attaches to the rear frame horns? Seems like that's where it would attach.
     
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    timgr

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    It's been a while since I've seen one of these, but you do have to drill a bunch of holes in the body IIRC. The brackets fit up against the curve of the rear corners and you drill through. There are plates (?) on the back side that distribute the weight of the rack over the body corners.
     
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    Boyink

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    This is the carrier in question?

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    Oh - I see... that's the picture that was posted in the album. Not what I was thinking of. You sure that's a Kayline rack?
     
  8. Aug 28, 2004
    Fhead Guy

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    Yep, its a Kayline, marked as such. It's supposed to be a bumper mount ...
     
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    66cj5

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    looks like a frame mount.
     
  10. Aug 28, 2004
    Boyink

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    The "bumper" terminology is always a bit fuzzy on old Jeeps. Some would argue the Jeep didn't have a bumper per se - just a rear crossmember and a drawbar/hitch.

    Do those holes line up to anything? I'm thinking you drill out the "rivets" in the rear crossmember and replace them with bolts, through the tire carrier.
     
  11. Aug 29, 2004
    Fhead Guy

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    Mike-

    After you mentioned the bit about the rear crossmember, I thought I'd go out and look things over again. It appears the "L" brackets that are attached to the bottom horizontal "leg" of the rack in the photo might actually go behind the rear crossmember and attach to the frame, but will require drilling holes in the frame. Then the rack is bolted to crossmember. This would pass the load weight to the frame instead of putting eveything on the crossmember. Given the rack with a spare and 2 full gas cans probably weighs 150 lbs, that's a good thing.

    The spacing of the two holes on these brackets do match the two vertical holes in the rear crossmember. The crossmember on Percival is a replacement, and the holes are just a bit too small for the bolts provided. Nothing that a drill won't fix.

    I'm still in the investigation phase . . . no need to perforate metal until I'm sure how everything is going to fit together


    Eck
     
  12. Aug 29, 2004
    Boyink

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    I think you've got it!
     
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