Why won't my bumpers fit?

I just recieved my front and rear bumpers from LoD offroad and was excited b/c they look great. Found that the front hole don't line upa and the rear is way off. Has anyone ever used or modified these bumpers for use on an older CJ5? What is the cutoff year for the frame being different dimensionally on the CJ5s? Any other suggestions on bumpers with clevis mounts that are made rugged like LoD?
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BenF

 

Nothing for earlies on that site. Your best bet is to make your own.:v6:

 

Looking on the internet it is looking like making my own is maybe the only way to go.

 

I actually work for my dads steel fab shop and when I get around buildin my 56 I will be sure to post up pics!
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Yours was an LoD bumper though? I have decided to just make my own. I started designing them in CAD this morning. I will post pics and dimensional info when I am done in case anyone else is interested.

Thanks again for everyone's response.

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BenF

 

Walck's here in PA used to sell them. Not sure if they still do or not.

 

Before you do anything else, need to go to www.jeepforum.com and PM username BESRK. He's a retired Army guy that opened up his own fab shop. Does really good work, just tell him your dimensions and what you want. I highly recommend his work:

 

I have the design for both bumpers on paper and now need to finish building in CAD. I will post pdf pics of bumpers when I am done. One thing I am a little puzzled by is the rear cross member. My drivers side is a couple inches longer than the passenger side but it measures 54" in length. Is the offset meant to accomodate the license plate? I am thinking of just trimming up the drivers side to match the passenger side. Any ideas?
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BenF

 

Note to Self: Try search for "crossmember" next time. I guess I found my answer. Now to decide whether to trim off the drivers side to make is symmetrical or make the new bumper longer. This Jeep is starting to give me grey hair.
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BenF

 

Yeah, its uneven but the holes in it are the same on both sides. You can even it up if you want to but its really unecessary. Once you put the new bumper on it won't be noticed. Here's some pics of mine, might give you some ideas. Its tied into the frame with 3/8" plate and uses existing holes for mounting.:v6:
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Looks great. I am assuming your rear bumper is longer than 54" then to cover the long side of the xmember? What guage of tubing did you use and are the plate on the bumper tapped? If not how is the bumper secured?
Thanks,
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BenF

 

GENIUS! I was looking at adding a spare tire mount also. Thanks again Panzer

 

Yes, I believe its 57", anyway it was cut to the width of the body (tub). The tube is 2x4x.188. Put a spare carrier much like Panzer's on mine as well. I put mine on the face of the bumper instead. You can see the hinge bracket and catch on the bumper. Being a cheapskate I went w/ a gate hinge rather than the spindle type in Panzer's drawing. The mounting plates were drilled and tapped to match existing holes on the xmember (1/2" plate steel).:v6: