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4WD transfer case...

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Malachai, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. Nov 4, 2008
    Malachai

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    I am having issues with putting my 61 into and out of 4WD, the levers themselves are not attached to the transfer case, I can do it with a little help, but it appears I am missing some clips to hold the levers into place...anyone have pics of these or know if any auto parts stores would carry these?
     
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    EricM

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    Malachai

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    I am not sure if those are what I need. I had a few minutes so I grabbed a pic, wish I was better at taking pictures, all mine come out a little blurry for some reason...

    The area circled in red is the area in question, of course. I dont understand how the sticks are supposed to stay attached to the unit...
     
  4. Nov 4, 2008
    Mcruff

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    Those clips insert from the top between the shifters taking the slop out of the sticks and holding the tips of the sticks in the notches on the shift rails. If you look closely at the sticks there are little flats on the sticks about 1 1/2" above the pivot point, this is the flat that locks these clips in place.
     
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    EricM

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    yep, and here is a diagram of what Mcruff described:

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    EricM

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    double post
     
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    Malachai

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    OOOOH, I see it now, thanks guys...I was expecting there to be a clip of some form that attached it at that point but still allowed it to move back and forth, was not expecting the clip to go above! :) I love these forums!! :D
     
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    Malachai

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    Ok, I got the clips that were linked to earlier, but now I have another problem, I dont think I can get them installed without either cutting the clip itself so its a slot instead of a hole, or removing the transmission first. The set screw is easy enough to get to, but it looks like the way the pivot pin would slide out would be towards the transmission, and there is not enough room to get it out, would run into the trans first. Unless I am thinking wrong and I am supposed to remove it by bringing it out the side that the lubrication fitting is at, which does not seem right because the pivot point seems much larger than the hole that the lube fitting is in. Any advice?? the pic about shows the clips with slots, so that is what gave me the idea of doing that...
     
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    Mcruff

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    I hadn't noticed that pic till you said this but my clips are a slot and can be removed and installed without removing anything.

    Where did you get the clips?

    If you notice in the diagram they are slotted and not a punched hole.

    This guy has the right ones.
    http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/Transmission.htm
    Part #A970
     
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    Malachai

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    I got mine from walcks, the link was given by EricM earlier in this thread, with a pic included
     
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    Brian P

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    The spring clip that is slotted is flattened where it locks into the notch in the shift lever, The spring clip that is not slotted is round where it rests against the shift lever, Its held in place by the shift lever pin. Notching it may not work very well because its round where it rests on the shift lever........not flat, It may not fit in the shift lever notch.

    I was just out looking at mine ( with spring clip like yours in hand ) and it may work to slot the spring clip but you may have to take a file to the shift lever and " wrap " the notch around both sides of the lever some.
     
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    Malachai

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    I have looked on the shift levers, but cannot seem to find any slots on them for the upper part of the spring clip to sit in. It is folded over so it forms a "U" shape at the top, so it would sit firmly against the shift lever when in place on the pivot pin. I am going to try and cut these to see if it will work or not, I have a few options, dremel with a cut off disc, or tin snips, but dont have any other form of cutting tools to do this...
     
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    Mcruff

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    They are very shallow maybe a 1/32-1/16" deep into the sides of the shifter, they are cut at an angle so they are flush at one end and cut deeper as the go up the shifter.
     
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    Brian P

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    I know it may be a little extra work but it may be best to pull the shift lever pin and install the clip on the shaft, The only reason I say this is that if one is not careful they could accidentally notch the shift lever in a manner that would allow the spring clip to work up and out, The retention notch on the shift lever should be slightly undercut ( a little under 90 degrees in relation to the bearing edge of the clip ) so the clip has a tendency to get tighter against the shift lever as it tries to work its way up and out.

    Notching the clip and lever will work............I would use the dremel tool to notch the clip just doing a little at a time so as not to overheat where you are grinding/cutting, Tin snips may distort the clip making it difficult to install and keep in place. Take your time notching the shift levers, They need to be a little undercut.
     
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