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It followed me home, what do I do with it?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by bobracing, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. Sep 13, 2008
    bobracing

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    It's a 1970 CJ-5 and yes it has the flanged D44.

    Looks reasonable from about 20 feet, from there it goes down hill fast.

    Floor what floor. I bought it semi-local on the dry side of the state, when I got the title (they never transferred it) it was from Tacoma the very wet side of the state.

    Got to love the zip tie holding the steering column in.

    Staying with the body, it's not bolted on at all. They redid the shock mounts (poorly I might add) which required a 2" body lift, there is only 2 there and no bolts holding the body on.

    Yes it has a shackle rev. on it but the blocks might be .120 wall, with no side support, and the shackles are almost 5" long, not pretty. And yes that is diamond plate hacked on the frame side. The hacked in piece just above the shackle, that holds a bearing for the steering. Speaking of steering, I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't steer more than about 1 turn when trying to get it on the trailer, turns out the steering shaft to steering box coupler had a set screw that didn't clear the front cross member.

    And for the last picture, the is just sexy, the pitman arm is cut and rewelded on the bottom to make a "drop pitman" of some sort. Not only that, they didn't have the correct u-bolts for the steering stabilizer, not a problem just weld a u-strap to the tie rod. If you look carefully there is a spacer on top tie-rod / knuckle connection, the otherside has a space.

    I'm not sure if parting it out is a good idea or just park it out back and use it as a hard top storage stand until I get about 4 Tetanus shots.
     
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  2. Sep 13, 2008
    bobracing

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    double post.
     
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  3. Sep 13, 2008
    windyhill

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    Sweet. Lots of good parts on there!
     
  4. Sep 13, 2008
    bobracing

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    I've been completely shocked at what an idiot with a welder can do.
    This Jeep was actually pretty nice at one time, someone did nice work, gauges in the dash the idea with the seat belts, front bumper and steering mounts, someone with some welding/craft skills did good work.
    After that some yahoo got a hold of it, I'm thinking a blind guy could weld better than this guy. Even the windshield hinges were welded on for light tabs.
     
  5. Sep 13, 2008
    joel63cj5

    joel63cj5 loose change

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    I am so glad the guy I bought mine from didn't see this post . he probably would have tried some of the custom mods.
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  6. Sep 13, 2008
    bobracing

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    Anyone good at engine ID?
    The serial number say it's a 225 with emission built in the May(ish) range of 70.

    This engine doesn't look right to me.

    HEI, and a EGR port (plugged).

    My guess is a 231 but how new? Any guesses?
     
  7. Sep 13, 2008
    cjmike1962

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    Looks like a late 80s buick should be a serial # on the block infront of one of the heads if i remember corectly.
     
  8. Sep 13, 2008
    $ sink

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    is there a build date sticker on the dash?
     
  9. Sep 14, 2008
    bobracing

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    Nothing left if you're talking about the one just left of the steering column. Someone made gauge pods and graphed them into the dash, kind of a nice idea where they actually point up a little so the driver has an easier time seeing them.
    It does have a warning about soft door not protecting you, a Warn sticker, Headman header sticker and the H shifter pattern sticker.

    The numbers came from the tag above the heater, what they mean from the tech section:
    83 univ. CJ-5
    05 open body
    0 not used
    1 left drive
    7 225 with emissions

    365108 for a serial, production or whatever number. This number put it between a March and May build numbers in that list.

    I don't believe it to be anything special.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2008
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    The motor from what I can see in the pics is a '79-early '81 231 or 252. Non computerized DualJet carb only used in those years. That's what I run in the '59 that has an '80 231 from a Monza. The carb is basically the primary side of a Q-jet. Really good off-road carb for a stock application... Doesn't mean the intake and carb couldn't have been retrofitted but the valve covers and heads scream 231 or 252. On the back of the block will be some casting #'s. With those the motor can be id'd. All the 252's I've seen had a small 4 barrel Q-jet on them.
     
  11. Sep 15, 2008
    $ sink

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    thanks, I have found a serial just 10 units after yours that has a may build date so it is safe to say April/May build
     
  12. Sep 15, 2008
    TheDude

    TheDude C'mon... start!...

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    That 5 pleases darwin, good thing welders are open to the general public and not a specified group of peoples. I would say nickmil hit it on the head with the 225, check the rear of the block as it could be a early model buick 231.
     
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