1974 cj5/7/8/wagoneer build

It all started with a 1974 CJ5 with a stock 304, t-15,dana 20, dana 30 and dana 44. 33 x14.50 mickey thompson hp, 4 inch lift. Motor was bad . Ramsey 8000 lb winch.
All that is left is the body and frame and winch ( trying to sell frame and winch)

Plans:
Take donor 1974 wagoneer frame , wagoneer axles dana 44's, built AMC 304 and TF727, NP 208 ?
Going to strech the CJ5 at door opening another 10- 14 inches floor board also, but keep the cj5 s doors , comp cut rear ( done ), Flat Fender front (done)
Going to run 35" BFG KM2 ( swweeet tires) on 15 x 8 crager soft 8

Parts I got :
CJ5 body comp cut
Built AMC 304
TF 727
NP 208 or 229 ?
Painless Wiring Kit
74 wagoneer frame
Either Dana 44's F & R or 44F & FSJ 20R
HEI distributor
HEI Accel Wires
Poly Motor mount and tranny mount
Corbeau Seats (used)
Headers

Parts I got to get:
15 x 8 crager soft 8's
35 x 12.50 BFG KM2's
Fuel Cell
Gears 5.13 or 4.88

Don't bash to bad trying to upload pics will not let me.
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74'cj5 soon to be on wagoneer frame/ drivetrain 109" ,built 304

 

Sounds like a neat idea, but are the frame widths similiar??? I have seen someone try to do something similar on Pirate and it looked awful. Used a Blazer frame though. Why not just lengthen the CJ frame in the same areas and add a body mount??? I have thought many times about simply adding about a foot of frame on both ends and using holbrook springs and mount them in the stock spring mount locations and then just stretch it out both front and back around 6 inches. A bit hard to do when it's my daily driver though


Good luck anyway and post pics when you figure out how.


High5

 

This guy did it and it turned out sweet. He used a yj. http://offcamber4wd.org/forum/index.php?topic=6241.0
It will be some work but i thinks this would be the easier.

 

Yeah,

That does look sweet.

High5

 

A guy at work put a CJ-7 on a shortened waggy frame. Even left it stock wheel base. He started from scratch and built a Jeep from parts he slowly acquired as he had time and money. It came out real nice. Only way you can tell it's a waggy frame without knowing what to look for is the frame is much beefier than a CJ frame. Jeep works very well on the trails and it's his daily driver and drives nice too.

 

Thats why i decided to go with the wagoneer frame much beefier and longer alraedy than the cj5 . I want have to reinforce or box or extend frame.

 

Are they the same widths???

I have no idea if they are or not. But, if they aren't, wouldn't it be a pain in the arse to change all the body mounts??? I guess you could narrow the frame, but then the spring hangers would be off to the axles.

Go to Pirate and search CJ 5.5. It's not that particular Jeep, but this guy has a pic of his "creation".

High5

 

Yes, they are different widths. Look at the "Scrambloneer" under the corners of the grille. You can see that the frame extends further than the corners of the grille.

Moving the body mounts wouldn't be that much trouble - mostly new hat channel locations. Lengthening the body would be more work than mounting.

It would look ok though, as long as the rear frame corners did not stick out under the rear corners of the body. Plenty of Waggy axles have gone under CJs.

 

Re: 1974 cj5/7/8/wagoneer build (dial up beaware)

Finally got some pics today .First one is of the CJ5 with the comp cut . I also went and got some 16 gauge sheetmetal for my new dash and new extension on the floor boards and sides for stretch. a couple of pics are how i'm gonna setup my dash.







I got to bend some new channels for the extension as well. I'm going saturday to pull body off the wagoneer frame I will be using. Hopefully we will get that done and at least pull the motor/trans ,transfer and put in new frame. Very Slow Build.

 

Well here is an update on the jeep with pics. First ones are of the dash that i'm working on. Then some pics of my BFG KM2s 35x 12.50 these tires are sweet. Even better in person. Couple of pics next to the jeep was trying to get the jeep high enough to get and idea. jack stands wouldn't go up high enough and rn out of blocks. oh well hope to get some work done on the frame this weekend.

 

: Finally got to work on the 74 waggie. My uncle and my cousin and I got the body off the frame . ( That was fun) My uncle had his J10 pulling the body and cousn with Honda 4x4 wheeler yanking the frame. Yeah were Rednecks but it worked. I will have alot of cleaning on the frame to do but will be worth it. I will post some pics later

 

Here are some pics .Couple of pics are of the waggie frame . Couple of the tire next to the flat black paint (I like it). One is my daughter driving the Jeep . She cried so hard when we had to go back inside. She is getting a Jeep rubicon power wheels for her birthday on December 1st. Last pic is of a 67 Jeepster my buddy is buying for 500.00.

 

Man it always breaks my heart to see you southern and western guys cutting into a rust-free Jeep.

But nice going on your project, it sounds cool. If it comes out as nice as that guy's Scramblineer you'll have something nice. Any thoughts on what to do about a top?

 

As I understand the previous posts, the donor CJ already had the comp cut, so no new cutting.

I like the Jeepster.

The NP case from the Wagoneer should have a tag. Likely it's a 229, since most with automatics came with a full-time case of some sort. All the manual transmission Wagons/J-10s and all the J-20s after 1980 got the 208.

Must be an old Chevy truck wheel?