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Carter to Weber K551 Swap

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by littledochawk, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. Jun 9, 2008
    littledochawk

    littledochawk Member

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    Been a while since I posted here, but I was hoping to get a bit more help... :rofl:


    I have been doing some research on a carb swap from the original single barrel carter.

    I decided to take the plunge and purchase the Weber K551 kit. I am making the switch due to the steep incline flooding issue I run into with the Carter.

    So my question is what is the difference between these two regulators, and does anyone have experience with this swap?

    Regulator #1

    Regulator #2
     
  2. Jun 9, 2008
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    My experience has been the Holley is much more accurately adjustable and much better quality. I used the other style a couple of times and they leaked and weren't accurately adjustable (using a fuel pressure gauge). I switched to the Holley style and never looked back.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2008
    littledochawk

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    Are you using a pressure gauge with it?

    Edit : Nevermind I didn't see the pressure gauge in parenthesis.

    So I guess I'm wondering how the Holley is adjusted, is it a screw? Is the only way to see what pressure your at, is by using a gauge? And are you using an reducer bushing on the regulator to fit your gauge to?
     
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  4. Jun 9, 2008
    littledochawk

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    I am looking into purchasing the holley regulator and gauge, but am having trouble figuring out how I am going to get the regulator to set inline with my rubber fuel line?

    This is what I am looking at purchasing...

    Holley 12-804 Fuel Regulator

    Fuel Ressure Gauge Adapter

    Pressure Gauge

    So with these parts I will be able to tie the gauge into the fuel line, but I am confused as to how I will get the regulator tied in?

    Any help would be appreciated, and feel free to let me know how stupid I am for asking these questions.
     
  5. Jun 9, 2008
    DrDanteIII

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    I've got the same regulator, but in hte 4.5-9 (?) psi range. Its got one input and 2 outputs.

    I currently have the second output plugged, But I am going to place a gague in the second port eventually.
    So if you put the gauge in the second port, you will not need the adapter to put it in line since the regulator will supply the sam pressure to both output ports.
     
  6. Jun 9, 2008
    DrDanteIII

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  7. Jun 9, 2008
    littledochawk

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    Thanks DrDanteIII!! By the way are you running the Weber?
     
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    DrDanteIII

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    You're welcome.

    I'm running a mc2100 that came with the v8's.
     
  9. Jun 9, 2008
    nickmil

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    What Dr. Dantelll said. I set the running pressure with a gauge in the second port then removed the gauge and plugged the port. Reason is the location of my pressure regulator. I didn't want a rock or something to break the gauge causing a fuel leak. In your case you could probably leave the gauge on depending on where you mount the regulator. There is a jam nut and a set screw for setting pressure.
     
  10. Jun 9, 2008
    littledochawk

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    Probably a smart idea to set it and plug it, no need to have one more thing to worry about.
     
  11. Jun 9, 2008
    Homebrew2

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    Do youall with the modern Jeeps have a high fuel pressure prob?
    I just installed a Weber 32/36 right out of the box with an existing '60's vintage pump with no probs that I can gleen at this time (?)

    With a Weber, what are the symtoms of too high of a fuel pressure?
     
  12. Jun 10, 2008
    littledochawk

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    From what I have read, you can damage the needle and float at anything above 5 psi.
     
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    Homebrew2

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    Thanks for the reply and headsup. I'll check into it some more. I had only read that too high a pressure could cause flooding.
     
  14. Jun 10, 2008
    littledochawk

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    No problem! I'm just hoping that switching to the weber will net me better results on steep inclines.

    I've heard alot of guys saying the carter won't idle properly, but that hasn't been my problem. Hard starting, and flooding out in the hills has been my downfall.
     
  15. Jun 10, 2008
    Homebrew2

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    My Carter YF worked good, but, if I mis-judged a climb on loose dirt and had to roll back and stop hard, I got the bowl-slosh-drowning-die thing ... not so with the Weber (so far anyway) :)
     
  16. Jun 10, 2008
    littledochawk

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    I noticed it failing me on a long climb. It is alright no short hills, but on a long climb I would have to really ride the engine hard to keep it from stalling out.
     
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