Ford engine conversion

Im looking at putting a single port injected motor from a 89-91 Ford Falcon BA
Ive been told that it all goes together quite nicely except that they couldn't remember weather it uses the jeep bell housing or the ford bell housing
My friends that have gone to ford motors have used a early model thats carbied but the bell housings the same between the models

If anyones done this conversion can you please steer me in the right direction

Cheers

 

I've heard that the newer Ford 4 cyl engines share the same bell housing as the old Pinto 4 cyl ( 2300 cc ?) My brother in law has a Thunderbird with a Turbo 4 cyl, its a 1988 I think, and he worked at a Ford dealer locally and agrees that the bells are the same. So, if you can the old conversion kit for a Pinto engine to a T90, it should work. Haven't done it myself, just relaying what I've been told. Ya know how that goes. Good luck and let us know how you make out. Sounds like a great swap to me.

 

Over on the CJ2A page there is a 2A that has a pinto engine with the stock tranny/trans case from a 2A, seems to like it much. As for your question, sorry, No help from me

 

Which engine is in the Falcon BA? We don't have Falcon's in the states so more info would be helpful.....

 

I meant an EA falcon for those from AUS n NZ
They're a 3.9 l straight 6 single port injected porduced between 88-92
I tried to get an engine number or something but all I came across was the specs

EA, EB 3.9 L EFI SOHC Unleaded 120 kW (161 hp) 311 N·m (229 ft·lbf)

I found a Pinto engine online that was $200
Or I can pay $500 and get the Falcon motor locally

 

Will the engine bay of your CJ4/LWB CJ3-B be long enough to fit the I-6?

 

We HAD a Falcon here in the USA in the '60s. It typically used the 144/170/200 Ford inline 6 cylinder engine. At about 61 cid per ld, thats 2.4/2.8/3.3L ... 3.9L is about 240 cid.

The USA Falcon motors were put into Jeeps occasionally because the bellhousing was shallow enough to be used with the T-90 and not need an input shaft replacement - AFAIK. You still had to match the transmission pattern to the bellhousing with a plate adapter, and adapt the throwout bearing and pilot bushing. This is the same way the Pinto is adapted (maybe the same adapter?). Look at the Novak page about the Pinto swap: http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/pinto.htm - they now use an integral bearing retainer to the plate adapter, but the original kit used a sleeve over the T-90 bearing retainer.

It's true - inline 6s are today considered too long for the early CJ engine compartment. This can be overcome by moving the firewall back and cutting the grille - but the V6s are plentiful and so much neater, hardly anybody (here in the USA) would consider an I6 swap into an early CJ-5 today. However, in NZ, you have to use what resources you have...

 

Also, In General -

You almost always use the bellhousing that goes with the engine. The transmission bolt pattern is small and simple compared to the engine pattern, and alignment with the input center is much easier.

What transmission does the CJ-4 use? If it's a T-90 or T-90 copy, then most of what's on the Novak site will apply. If not, then it may be true that the Falcon engine bolts right up to the CJ-4...

 

I suppose I could go to the wrecker on buy the motor see if it works and if it doesnt go back and get the bell housing

 

I recall a thread here about CJ-5 Jeeps in Oz that used a Ford inline 6 motor. If that's what your information source is thinking of, the newer Falcon motor would be an easy replacement in a CJ-5. What engine does your Jeep have now?

 

Ive got a F-head in it now
with the 3 speed gearbox

 

I bought my 2A in September 2006. Previous owner did an engine swap in the 70's to a 72 302 out of a Torino. Not really the same thing you are describing, but I can post some pics if you would like.

Chris

 

Hi,

My friend is making Ford 302 & C4 conversion to -43 MB.

He's having problems locating C4 to D18/D20 6 spline adapter.
AA has not been able to provide this for 6months now.

Does anybody know any other suppliers for this kind of adapter ?

AA has all other items but they are currently not able to provide the axle that
should come with the kit.

 

It would be better to start a new thread with a new question like this.

The only two possible suppliers AFAIK would be Advance and Novak www.novak-adapt.com. If Advance can't supply the shaft, you could go with a different transfer case such as the Dana 300, or cut your losses and go with a GM engine and TH350.

If your friend had planned to keep the MB rear axle , it's certainly not strong enough for V8 power. IIRC the Dana 18 from an MB is also comparatively weak due to its small intermediate shaft, again IIRC. Not a very favorable starting point IMO. Here in the USA, a MB would be worth way too much as parts or as a restorable vehicle to even consider an engine swap. Maybe in the middle of the last century, but not today. hth!