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Does anyone know why the dash could not be shorter from top to bottom?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by sbeck61, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. Feb 16, 2008
    sbeck61

    sbeck61 New Member

    Waconia, MN
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    Does anyone know why the dash could not be shorter from top to bottom.

    I am in the process of drawing my 1964 jeep CJ-5 in 3D, so I can design things for it to get machined. Which brings up some other question?

    • Is there any one out there that has already done a 1964 era CJ-5 in 3D?
    • Does any one have detailed information so I do not have to go measure everything to draw it?
    • When I get mine done is there a place I could put my drawing so if someone else wanted to do what I am they would not have to start from square one?

    Back to my current question, is there any reason that the dash has to be as tall as it is? I understand that it also holds the steering wheel. But I want to put in a tilt one anyway so something is going to change anyway. I don’t want the Junk collector in it (i.e. Glove box). So if I make the dash shorter and possible cut away some of the dash on the Drivers side and passenger side. Am I losing anything special?

    My first thought to make one with a big cut out so I could just install one panel with the items I need to work on.

    Second though was to make it 3 sections so I could change things by just making a new panel for the items I am adding or changing.

    Third, as I was out measuring it to draw it. I was wondering why it needs to be so tall. If it was an inch or so shorter does it matter? I was thinking I could cut away some of the passenger side for more room and easier to get to that heater. I wouldn’t have to have the cutaway for the steering and just make a very nice looking bracket to hold the steering column. Still want three sections I think, maybe four one small one on the left side of the column.

    Unfortunately for me I cannot think inside the box. So anything I see or problems I have had with any other vehicle I have ever owned, I must change it to fit what I perceive I should have. Sometimes I keep it and some times it changes to something else. I am not exactly sure of what I am going to put in it. So, I want it to be very easy for me to pull something have it machined and put it back on with out completely shutting down my vehicle. For now, I just want to get it up and running down the road. So I need to get a dash made. Then, I will start adding things that I want or have read on this forum that I want. My goal for the dash is to be as water proof as I can. I am using marine grade items and thinking about using Aluminum or Stainless steel for the dash.

    So any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I will try to add some pictures of what I am think of as soon as I have drawn them.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2008
  2. Feb 17, 2008
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Don't forget the dash serves to strenthen the body side to side. An inch less probably wouldn't matter though.
     
  3. Feb 17, 2008
    Walt Couch

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    Don't forget about the e-brake. It may or my not be relevant to angle change. Sounds very interesting on your 3-D work-up. Will be watching for it.
     
  4. Feb 17, 2008
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    The dash does serve to strengthen the tub, it has a reinforcing channel at the bottom of it. It also holds up your windshield so you don't want it to flimsy. I would not think that multi-piecing it would be a good idea. Now if you want to put your gauges in a removeable panel thats different. To me removing the glove box is a bad idea, to litle storage in a cj anyway, I'll take all I can get. YMMV
     
  5. Feb 17, 2008
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    you could add a piece of tubing to help the reinforce the body. but i don't think it would help that much.

    why don't you want a glove box?
     
  6. Feb 17, 2008
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    My only input is that when I was laying out my dash I felt like there were plenty of constraints there already - mainly presented by where the defroster duct runs. 1" less of height to work with...wow..even more tight.

    It got really tight behind the switches - I actually had to wrap my defrost ducts in milk-jug plastic so the wires and connectors wouldn't push holes through. The top gauges are about as high as they can go and still have clearance behind them.


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    Keep in mind the curve of the cowl means not all of the face surface of your dash will be usable:

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  7. Feb 18, 2008
    sbeck61

    sbeck61 New Member

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    I was wondering if the dash didn't strenghten the body somehow.

    When I got mine there is no e-brake there. There not even any cables in that area, have to do some more investagating. It's been a little to cold up here to be out in the garage. Wish I would have put the heater in last summer. Hate not being able to go out and work in my garage.

    Glove boxes, I just don't like the look of them. Maybe if I design something that looks better I would put one in.

    I haven't pulled mine dash out yet. so I didn't dawn on me about the top part not being useful, or the curve of the cowling.

    Thank you all for your input, gives me more to think about.
     
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