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Front end alignment after 2 1/2" lift???

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Executioner, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. Apr 22, 2007
    Executioner

    Executioner Member

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    Got the Rough Country lift on but the tires look like I'm runnin with some toe in and maybe it's just me but it also looks like the top of the tires are out further than the bottom, Can I make some adjustments to lessen this?
    I got my inspection comming up next month but I don't wanna tear up my tires till then.

    Thanks for any help
     
  2. Apr 22, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    if all you did was a lift,the only thing you would have changed is the caster,there are no adjustments for caster or camber on the 25 or the 27 dana front end,you can shim between the spring and the axel housing for caster,but unless you are having drive line woes i wouldnt do it
     
  3. Apr 22, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    just thought of it,you may need to lengthen the tie rods since the piviot point is attached to the frame,when you lifted it you increased the space between it and the axel,thus its too short,this would affect toe in
     
  4. Apr 22, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    When in dobut align it. i know i needed to align mine when i did my first lift, it was so bad i couldnt drive more than 5 mhp without the front end bouncing up and down like a maniac. Have you given the jeep a test drive yet?
     
  5. Apr 22, 2007
    Hansh

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    You can adjust the toe yourself. Loosen the tie rod sleeves and turn till the toe in is about 1/4". If you have some slop in the front end parts then go a little higher. Turning the sleeves will also change your steering wheel position,but you can change that after you get your toe in right.

    To measure toe across the left and right tires, just use a tape measure on the front and rear of the tires at the points farthest rear and forward and subtract the difference. Make sure to pick the same place on each tire, left and right, and front and rear. Note which way each adjusting sleeve changes toe. If you know that then when you have to adjust the steering wheel angle turn the sleeves the SAME amount keeping the toe setting at 1/4". Check your toe after straightening the steering wheel, and make sure to tighten the sleeves. If they are rusty, lots of penetrating oil helps. One more hint, a pipe wrench, or vise grip, makes it HARDER to turn the sleeves as it tries to clamp down.

    You want toe in, front closer than rear, because as you drive the tires will tend to want to toe out, so slight toe in should be nearly straight ahead while driving. You do NOT want toe out as the steering can become "darty", so that is why if you have sloppy front end parts you need to go slightly higher.

    The lift should not have changed your camber, tilt in and out. You can measure this, but you will need a perfectly flat surface, and an inclinometer. IF the surface on your lock out is pretty flat you can get an IDEA of where your camber is. Place the inclinometer on the lockout's flat surface and take the reading. Both side should be slightly over 90 degrees, with the top of the tire slightly out. Straight up and down is perfect for tire wear but not road crown.

    Camber adjustment, if it is way out will have to be down at a shop, especially since the above method is just a crude way to ball park where you are.

    Caster measurement takes a little more work and tools. If your Jeep is pulling to one side due to alignment, it is usually caused by camber or caster. Good luck, hope this all makes sense.
     
  6. Apr 22, 2007
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    If you do anything w/ the front end, lift etc, I highly recommend doing an
    alignment. Whether you do it or have some to it. I did mine when I did my new
    1" lift and found out it was never done by the PO. It is so good now I took off
    the steering stabilizer. It wasn't needed.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2007
    Executioner

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    I already went on the road and noticed alot more tire noise and checked the wear on a short 5 mile run and seen that the outside of the tire tread is wearing on the outside edge and about 1-2" on the inside still has dirt on the tread.

    I'd rather someone that has the equipment do the alignment so I'll schedule for an early inspection.


    Thanks for the compliments!:D It drives 150% better than before:)

    :driving:
     
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