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Venting windshield question again

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by kiowamtp, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Feb 7, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    I just ordered my gasket from Pete DeBella. He says there is only one gasket for the CJ5 venting windshield. It is the gasket that goes on the outside portion and seals the inner portion. According to him (and I am not questioning his expertise) the glass on the inner portion is sealed with a caulk of some sort. Those of you that have sealed your split glass how did you do it? Also, is the split glass measurements (and inner frame) the same measurements as the M38A1 split windshield and can you use the gasket for that?

    Mine is so deteriorated (around the glass) that I cannot tell if the glass was sealed with a rubber seal or just caulk sealant of some type.

    Thanks
     
  2. Feb 7, 2007
    blevisay

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    ???????

    Made my head hurt........
     
  3. Feb 7, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    Oops sorry. I thought I wrote it up well. Basically I have a venting windshield with split glass (inner frame) from a 1958 export CJ6. I am wondering what seals the split glass to the inner frame. I already have the outer portion seal enroute. Pictures may help I guess.

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  4. Feb 7, 2007
    blevisay

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    Gotcha!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Feb 7, 2007
    PeteL

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    I got it, but I have a windshield to look at!

    Sorry, don't know the answers though, haven't set mine up yet. Hope I can use the information developed from your thread to answer the same queries!

    Pete
     
  6. Feb 7, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    Do not know if you were following my other thread, but I think I have found replacement arms and latches for the venting windshield. If you need them try Saturn Surplus. The M35 arms and latches are the same...very cheap. Mine are on the way and I will update when I have them in my hands.

    I hope someone can answer this as well.
     
  7. Feb 7, 2007
    blevisay

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    Dang it.........I bought the latches from someplace............arrrrh I cant remember
     
  8. Feb 7, 2007
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Kevin, see you found some arms, I do have them but not the catches.

    The glass is a different size from the M38A1 WS which is the same size as a regular WS glass, just split in two. Same gasket as well. I can only find one gasket for the WS listed in the parts book so Mr. De Bella may be correct-

    H.
     
  9. Feb 7, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    Yes, did find some replacements, but I am not holding my breath until they come in. If those do not work then I will PM ya back. Appreciate the feedback on the different sizes and what the parts book says.:beer:
     
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    PeteL

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    Thanks Kevin, I have all the hardware. But I did see the other options you posted.

    Looks to me like maybe a butyl/neoprene caulk would set the glass okay, but I'd want an expert opinion on what type is compatible with the plastic in the laminated glass. The glass is definitley smaller than M38A1

    Pete
     
  11. Feb 7, 2007
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over flat glass R)

    Any decent glass shop can cut safety glass to fit the inner frame & they'll either have a gasket material that fits or the butyl sealant that is used on modern windshields, all you got to do is drop off the inner frame & go back a couple of hours later to pick it up:) Heck even I've been able to that successfully.

    O.K., it wasn't me, Rachel did it but I could have done if I had really wanted to.


    Honest, I really could have :rofl:



    The only tricky part is the inner/outer seal & you've already got that coming so you're home free :)

    H.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2007
    SandhillMike

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    so where did you get the seal that goes between the inner and outer frames?? I definately need one.
     
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    blevisay

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    Debella mike
     
  14. Feb 8, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    Yep, at Debella's. It was 50 bucks.
     
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    SandhillMike

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    OK is the one for the M38A1 the same as a ECJ5?
     
  16. Feb 8, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    Nope, however, someone told me that the inner pane assembly is the same on the CJ3B and the CJ5. I cannot confirm this. I would just get the one from Pete. I'll let you know how the rubber looks after all these years from aging. Pete said they were still good quality.
     
  17. Feb 8, 2007
    SandhillMike

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    I must be confused. On the web site all I see is stuff for MB/GPW and M38/M38A1
     
  18. Feb 8, 2007
    kiowamtp

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    http://www.debellajeepparts.com/oddlot.htm

    Here ya go. The gasket is a couple pics down. Also, if you need something and you do not see it on his site just call him up. He has loads of stuff not on his website. For example NOS venting CJ5 windshields, etc.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2007
    SandhillMike

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    Thanks, I'm a little slow today. R)
     
  20. Feb 9, 2007
    Rondog

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    I'd sure like to poke around in DeBella's warehouse....

    Oh, and FWIW, the gasket I got from him looks like it's brand new manufacture, instead of god-only-knows how old it is. Nice and pliable, no dry rot at all.
     
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