Swinging pedals yes/no, maybe?

Will it looks like I am going to get to blow the dust of my 2A after being on the back burner for 5+ years.. The frame and running gear are mostly done, 231/TH350/D18 with 3.15 gears.. Axles are d30 with disk and flanged d44 with drums..
I'm thinking a power brake setup might be nice being it is an auto trans. So should I try to reuse the original floor pedal or go to a swinging pedal? What has everyone used for a swinging pedal setup? Any writeups/pics?
Thanks
Keith

 

No pics yet but I am planning on using these in my 3b.
http://www.wilwood.com/Products/005-PedalAssemblies/002-FSMP/fsmdmcbp/index.asp

 

I've been using pedals out of cherokees. Just did one with power brakes, and the hydraulic slave cylinder. Takes all the work out of it. At the local pull-a-part they charge about $50.00 for the pedals, booster, master cylinder, proportion valve, and clutch master. Hard to beat and replacements are easy to come by.

 

Thanks for the quick replies... Do you need to re-enforce the firewall?
I've looked at the Wilwood setup a loog time ago and really like it, just seemed kind of pricey.. Saw one setup where they used 2 Wilwood pedals and m/c's mounted side by side. That way they could brake front OR back or both.

I have a good 88 Cherokee m/c and booster I removed when i upgraded it to a later model booster.. It should be powerfull enough for a light weight flatty. Just would need the pedal assy. Do you have any pics of the install?
Keith

 

WHen I bought mine, it had the Wilwood brake master adapted to standard pedals -- works well. I installed one in another flatty and it took a couple hours -- no biggie. In the near future, I will be adapting a Wilwood hydraulic slave in the Buick setup --should be interesting! 8)

oh -- imho, I like the originality of the old-school pedal look but with better technology hidden below

 

That sounds interesting...Was it a dual m/c or two singles? Would you have any pics of it?
Keith

 

I vote yes.
And definitly put in a steel plate to make more solid.

 

I used a set of swinging pedals out of a Land Crusier. They are nice pedals but were way to long. I did quite a bit of modifying to make them work. I went with the Wilwood hydraulic clutch. Really works great. That to was a lot of work but well worth it. Very smooth clutch set up. My slave cylinder started to leak after about six months. I found out that when I pushed the clutch down it was putting side load on the slave cylinder. Remounted it using Hiem joints at both ends and it is smooth as glass. I did not reinforce my firewall because the pedal set up had a bracket that ties the firewall to the dash. Good luck.

 

I have YJ pedals ($25 shipped), and am using a Parts Mike Parts slave and master kit for the clutch and yet undecided on the power brake booster and master cylinder.

 

I know, sorry for the hijack.... but would swinging pedals out of a 73 cj5 work in a flattie? how much rework of the pedals would need to be done?

 

Yes Cj5 pedals work. You might need to rebend the pedals around the column.

 

no pics but its a single wilwood bolted in the same position as the stock unit. I think I drilled one new hole in the frame, thats it.

 

I've been playing with the idea of 2 singles mounted under the floor but am not where i can do any measuring right now.. Kind on like the one they sell on the swinging pedal setup.
Keith

 

I used the willwood swinging setup on the '6. Great design. Locks up my 38's with no power. Will try to get pics. Willwood also makes an under floor kit.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/aspx/display_id.1960/itemNo.master+cylinder/qx/Product.htm

 

These are pics of a cherokee set-up in a 3-a

 

That's a nice looking setup Daryl... You used the Cherokee pedals also, right? Did you have to do any modifications to the pedal assy?

 

On a 3-a you need to shorten the pedals by 3 inches. On a 3-b or a 5 it is a straight bolt in. You have to do a little bit of figuring depending on which column you have. There is wiggle room depending on how many things that you are working on at the same time. The pedals still need a bracket to the dash, as that ties everything together. In the pics you can see the 3/16 plate that is covering all the holes that had been hacked in over the years. It really adds some strength to the whole deal. Best part is that the parts are all easy to get, there are about 2 million cherokees out there.

 

That twin MC Wildwood unit looks good to me - especially the under-floor type. Above, michigan_pinstripes said it was bolt-in, with maybe one hole to drill in the frame. I wonder if the twin MC unit would be any more difficult to install.

 

If you want to keep your stock pedals, then Herm's kit works.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/BrakesDualMaster.html
http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/id2_dual_reservoir_master_cylinder.htm