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On board air tank option

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by BobFortier, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Sep 27, 2006
    BobFortier

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    Jeepman252

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    I see no problem at all. I think most people don't use it that way because of its size (big). Most are looking for something as compact as possible or utilizing something else like the roll bar or a tubular bumper to keep weight down and to utilize the small space to its fullest.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2006
    Boyink

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    Yep - usable.
    Yep - big. That'll eat alot of space up in a 5.

    I get along w/o a tank because I just use OBA to air up tires. It'd be a bit quicker with a tank but only for the first tire, IMHO.
     
  4. Sep 27, 2006
    uglyjeep

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    A great source for air tanks are off of commercial trucks and semi tractors in the junkyards, the tanks for their air brake systems are usually available in configurations that fit in tight places, and you can get the mounting brackets and other goodies with them, often for reasonable prices.

    Daniel
     
  5. Sep 27, 2006
    w3srl

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    You'd have to run the calcs, but I'm betting that a low-pressure (~120 PSI) tank isn't going to fill very many tires before it ends up equalized with the tire you're trying to fill.

    IMHO, the $29.99 12v compressors that Pep Boys and Harborfreight have on sale now and again are a better deal for cheap OBA. Either that, or get a high-pressure tank (~2200-4500 PSI) and a regulator because the volume held will be much, much greater. It's all about air volume, not pressure. ;)

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    Boyink

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    Brings up a good question - whats the OBA for? For tires the tank is pointless, but if you're wanting to run air tools etc then maybe it makes sense.

    I do seem to note a belief with all the OBA writeups that I see that you *need* a tank, and IMHO that isn't really the case.

    Actually while I like having the OBA, I can count on one hand the number of times I've actually used it - and even then sometimes I used it because I had it.

    Although I did help out a guy up in the dunes who had rolled a tire off the wheel of his fullsize pickup.
     
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    John A. Shows

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    They're good for airing up matresses.....
     
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    Mcruff

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    Obsolete Airpak tank from your local friendly fire department works nicely.
    It helps to know a firefighter!;)
     
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    Rondog

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    Didn't somebody mention recently that they'd made or modified their rollbar or cage into an airtank? Seems like I read that recently, maybe it was another forum...
     
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    John A. Shows

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    Having an OBA system is nice when you need it even though you only use it once in a while. I'd say a tank would be much nicer than just the compressor, but not absolutely necessary. Most of the time you're just airing up tires with it, but airing up tires is easier and quicker with a tank.

    But...that tank is just too big. I'd get a tank specifically designed for one of the store bought OBAs.
     
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    BobFortier

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    Thanks guys

    I will have a York compressor mounted on my I6. Thanks to Allen here at ECJ-5.

    I know that particular tank is big. I saw a 7 gallon (23 x 10dia) at the hardware store, and maybe I did not express myself correctly. As for a Viair style tank, the only 4x4 store I know of here in Québec has it for 80$, with no fitting.

    So if I understood you all correctly, that kind of tank could work.

    And maybe I'll run air tool, but for now I'm just gathering info for my set-up, evaluate options, final decision will come later


    Thanks all

    Bob in Sherbrooke
     
  13. Sep 28, 2006
    raskal

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    try looking for a store that sells used tools, including air compressors. Sometimes they carry the small 2 or 2.5 gal tanks that the air-nailer compressors use, but no compressor, just the tank. I bought 3 of these sized tanks for $5 CAN each. Thise smaller compressors can burn out pretty quick and the people are left with a just the tank.

    good luck
     
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    John A. Shows

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    Seems like they make an air compressor for use with nail guns they call a pancake compressor. The tank is flat and round kinda like a tire inner tube. Well....it's that shape anyway.

    Maybe one of those tanks would work. To be honest I've wanted one for my York Air for a while, but have made it fine without it. Just no real convenient place to mount it. When I say convenient, I mean no really easy place to mount it. I really haven't felt like working on it or spending any money...if you know what I mean.
     
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    gte636p

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    i've got the setup raskal and john mentioned. I believe i'm running the tank off of the compressor in the link. It fits nicely beind the passenger seat and takes up about half of the space behind it. I'd post some pictures, but the cj is miles away from me and i don't have any pics of it after i threw that in. I do know the stock v6 A/C compressor will pump it up to 140 psi in about 45 seconds at idle, really fast when headed down the road, and will shoot a potato fairly far when needed to... other than that i've never really had a use for it. i just stumbled on the brackets and compressor in a junkyard for 45 bucks total, and was given the tank. how can you pass it up??

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Craftsmen-Air-C...5QQihZ002QQcategoryZ22662QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
     
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    raskal

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    Hawk62cj5

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    I have 4 air tanks on my jeep , they are mounted on rims R)

    Seriously Im going to turn my big roll bar into a tank.
     
  18. Sep 30, 2006
    uglyjeep

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    We sealed up a rollcage for use as an airtank once, afterwards we punched some numbers on the actual volume of the roll cage, and for all the work we put into it, we only gained about 1.2 gallons! Not worth it in my opinion unless you couple it to additional tanks such as a pair of bumpers or a smaller tank cylinder.

    Also, That fancy Viair tank looks almost identical to the used tanks we've been finding off of dumptrucks and semis in the junkyards...

    Daniel
     
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    Hawk62cj5

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    I have the 3or 3.5 inch roll bar not the newer roll cage tubing.
     
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    firegod33

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    :iagree:

    These can often be had for next to nothing, are built to survive the elements, and are the perfect size to tuck under the Jeep where they're not taking up valuable cargo space. I have one that I got from work. I just need a few more to outfit my Jeep and pickup.
     
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