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Brake line fittings?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by navy67, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. navy67

    navy67 It's a Jeep thing!

    Question, I wanted to know if anyone has a trick on loosening badly corroded fittings? Its the one on the M/C. Also does anyone know the exact size of the wrench i should use?
     
  2. lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

    PB Blaster, available at most auto supply places.
    Soak it repeatedly, for a couple days...
     
  3. toolbox

    toolbox If you get bored, I've got the projects.

    Soak it with your favorite penetrating oil, and use a line wrench (forget what size...3/8?). If you're going to replace the line, you can cut it off and put a 6 point socket on it. Even if it's half round already, you can usually pound the socket on and and get it out. The hard part then is getting the old fitting out of the socket :shock: If it's already completly round, you can try the usual tricks...vice grips, etc.
     
  4. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I got a double-flaring tool, a roll of tubing, and a bag of fittings. My life changed for the better!

    Pete
     
  5. gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

    I just cut the bad section out and used 2- 3/16" compression fittings, one on each end. Piece-o-Cake!
     
  6. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Compression fittings? Now you are scaring me. ;-)

    Pete
     
  7. rayandtanya

    rayandtanya project missions jeep

    that's the way we do it even on school buses this side of the rio grande.
    ray
     
  8. Rampdog

    Rampdog knuckle buster

    :iagree:
    :iagree:
    They'd work to get you out of the woods, but not much farther than that.
     
  9. spud

    spud Nope..it's not finished!

    Please tell us you're joking.......:?
     
  10. gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

    Well we will just have to wait and see, won't we... Wish me luck....R)

    Why don't you think they will work, list your reasons below.
     
  11. gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

  12. Jeep475370

    Jeep475370 New Member

    I think for the long haul I would replace the complete line or lines. That's where I was at last week on the 70 model. For sure after replacing lines and probably wheel cylinders go back with silicone fluid!!!! It cost a little more in the beginning but it won't rust,keeps rubber lines and seals flexable and doesn't attract water
     
  13. kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

    The size wrench I use to loosen corroded brake line fittings is a medium size vise grip.

    Using one of those on a master cylinder fitting should be easy. It gets a little trickier on some of the intermediate junction boxes.

    Double flaring is very easy, and there is no substitute for doing it right when it comes to brakes.

    The only thing that you need to be sure to do is to create a chamfer on the tube before beginning the flaring process. The rest is easy as pie, but don't forget to put the fitting on the line before you flare it. That is the voice of experience talking here.
     
  14. NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

    I had compression fittings on my daily driver 2000 F150 for about a year before I traded it in.
     
  15. Vanguard

    Vanguard Take Off! Staff Member

    With the pressure brake systems are subjected to, I wouldn't trust compression fittings for brake lines. Your just asking for trouble.

    You won't find them in an OEM system and that should tell you something. Get your self a double flaring tool and a bender and fix it up right. If nothing else pick up a pre-flared line and add a service loop or two.

    You're betting your life and maybe the lives of others. It pays to be careful and not take short cuts.
     
  16. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    :iagree:

    Absolutely positively. Don't cut corners on the brake system.
     
  17. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Double-ditto on Kamel's remark - remember to chamfer the tube before double flaring.

    I broke two tools before figuring that out...

    Other than that it's easy-peasy. SOOo nice to be able to fit a new line anywhere, anytime.

    Pete
     
  18. spud

    spud Nope..it's not finished!

    Just realize that compression fittings are not safe in an automotive application. I'm sure if one of the engineer types on here would chime in, they can tell you the operating pressure of the brake system in a panic stop mode. Then compare it to the capacity of the compression fittings. I'm sure that the difference will shock you. Remember, it's not just you on the road, anyone around you is at risk if your brakes fail........:(

    I bought a double flare tool from Autozone for 25 bucks. It's worth every penny.
     
  19. beeser

    beeser Member

    I agree with everything said in favor of double flared joints. The only thing I would add is the necessity of using flared nut wrenches instead of open end types or worse yet, pliers, etc. Makes the job go a lot smoother.
     
  20. toolbox

    toolbox If you get bored, I've got the projects.

    When I used to work on heating equipment, I ran into a lot of fuel (LP and NG gas) lines that used compression fittings. Seemed like I had a lot of them that were a real PITA to get sealed. And that's on a fuel system that runs well under 20 PSI. I was a much bigger fan of flare fittings. I personally try to avoid them (for any application) if at all possible. That's just my experience though.