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71 Jeep Purchase!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by wreckless123, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. Aug 15, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    As Wheelie said, drum brake is correct for a '71. Also that bracket on the side of the tcase is correct for a '71, for the clutch cable... my '71 still has it.
    Since that bracket isn't being used... how about some pics of the clutch actuator/mechanism? What is the linkage from the pedal to the fork... mechanical (rods), cable or chain?
     
  2. Aug 15, 2006
    timgr

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    I say yes, but I think there's no consensus - no definite nos, but not everyone is convinced.

    About the floor colors not matching, only the center hump would be black from the factory. The rest of the floors would be body color. The floors were likely (spray-can) repainted when the patches were made.
     
  3. Aug 15, 2006
    Sloth

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    Was it not common to find 4 speeds in government purchased vehicles?
     
  4. Aug 15, 2006
    wreckless123

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    Here is undoubtable proof it was a factory 4 speed! R)

    Just kidding, the wife was playing around with her camera.. I just thought it was a cool shot. With the naked eye you really cant make out the pattern anymore but she is pretty good with the camera and 20 shots later........

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  5. Aug 15, 2006
    Glenn

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    Well, at least now we know it has a 4 speed shift knob! :)
     
  6. Aug 15, 2006
    jflots

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    My Jeep has a similiar plaque that came of a CJ3B and says Department of Navy on it. It's mounted on the firewall. I'm looking for a picture.
     
  7. Aug 15, 2006
    OLD BLUE CJ-5

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    Man You Got One Heck Of A Deal... Looks All There.. Motor Looks Like It Might Need Some Work... Thanks For Pic
     
  8. Aug 15, 2006
    Project71-5

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    I agree that the transmission cover looks factory.

    How about the transmission mount, it appears stock.
     
  9. Aug 15, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    The bracket on the side of the transfercase is factory for a 71 model, its for the clutch cable.
    I also believe the transmission mount looks factory.
     
  10. Aug 16, 2006
    wheelie

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    okay, this is a real long shot but..... would the GVW offer any evidence being that the 4spd is heavier than the 3 spd. I doubt that the manufacturer would get that precise/split hairs like that. Just a thought. I'm terribly curious. " I gots ta know."
     
  11. Aug 16, 2006
    Glenn

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    I'm with Wheelie, the torch job on the cover...why was that done? Plus the t-case shifter looks like only 1 rod? Let me rephrase that......Looks like it only goes to one, hard to tell with the driveshaft in the way.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2006
    wreckless123

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    I will get some more pics tonight of the T-case and trans mounts. If there is anything else let me know.. :beer:
     
  13. Aug 16, 2006
    timgr

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    Dave, can you point to that better? I can see how the hole for the TC shifter might have been enlarged - is that what you are referring to?

    I think the factory simply cut away the extra metal in the standard floor pans to make a larger hole that's covered by the new hump cover. That's the way it appears in the later I6 models (these have the D20 single-stick though, so they aren't directly comparable). With so few made, the floor pan mods could have been rough, even by Jeep standards.
     
  14. Aug 16, 2006
    Glenn

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    4th page, 9th picture down you can see where someone torched it a bit. Look by the starter and the cables that are coming down. The bigger the monitor the better you can see it.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2006
    timgr

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    Yes, that's the same enlarging that I can see from the top.

    I can't explain that, except that maybe the shifter was rubbing and someone cut more away. What's the shape of the hole on a standard floorpan, round? Isn't there usually a boot?
     
  16. Aug 16, 2006
    Mcruff

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    The factory hole was oval shaped with a piece of rubber with a black metal ring screwed down around it. The rubber had nothing more than a slit in it. They are pretty crude even for a jeep of this vintage.
     
  17. Aug 16, 2006
    wreckless123

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    I can explain the torching you are seeing. It was acutually done last week buy the previous owner. When he put the body back on after replacing the body mounts he said that he must have bent the break pedal and it was hitting the body before going full travel so he said he was going to heat it up and bent it back.. I guess he cut a hole instead..

    He is talking about this one:

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  18. Aug 16, 2006
    Glenn

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    That's the t-case shift lever, but that explains why it's cut and the freshness looking of it did have me stumped.
     
  19. Aug 16, 2006
    wreckless123

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    Well, here are the newest pics. I took the top cover off to hopefully put this to rest. The first few is for the person that wanted to see how the clutch is actuated. The next few show the text on the trans and mount. The last few show the top of the trans and the hole in the floor. The only trans/t-case mount was the crossmember under the t-case. Let me know what you guys think..

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  20. Aug 16, 2006
    Mcruff

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    Hate to say this but that sure is one jury rigged piece of crap thats running the clutch.
    I think this thing is original. Most guys would have gotten rid of the 71 bellhousing and went with the pre 70 v6 bellhousing to do this swap unless like Tim said they used factory parts a few years after the 71 model year. It also has the right number on the side of the transmission.
     
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