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NOS Tail lights and other bizzare things

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by CJ, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. Mar 21, 2006
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

    NorthWest Indiana
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    always possible a po used NOS military replacement parts. at one time they where cheaper than new. have seen old ads (late 70's/early 80's) that listed NOS M38a1 tubs for $50.
     
  2. Mar 21, 2006
    CJ

    CJ Member

    Phoenix, Arizona
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    It is, without question, an M38A1 frame. Front bumper to rear crossmember, bolted pedal pivot and gun mount and all! It is stamped with the appropriate numbers for my Jeep, in the civilian location. As Howard had mentioned some time in the past, they just snuck them in at times.
     
  3. Mar 21, 2006
    48cj2a

    48cj2a http://bantamt3c.com

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    Your teasing me again...pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. Mar 22, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    My '56 CJ5 has factory reverse shackles, s/n 36141. But I'm with you Howard, I think these are the "correct" style. If it's a proven fact that this style works better, then why did they make the majority of them backwards, with the shackles in front? I've never heard anybody saying they liked them in front, but lots of people talking about changing them to "reversed".
     
  5. Mar 22, 2006
    CJ

    CJ Member

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    I am sure that the design change to have the shackles in the front was due to the same problem that many rock crawlers have with their "shackle reversals". Upon suspension droop, with shackles in the rear of the spring, the axle pulls down and forward, causing the potential, and often times the result, of having the slip yoke pull off of the drive shaft. With the shackles in the front, this problem does not occur. Of course, the "reversal" makes for a smoother ride and better handling due to the nature of how forces are applied to the axle, and subsequently the frame, during normal driving. Toss up really.:)
     
  6. Mar 22, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    I'd be willing to bet the shackles in the rear turned out to be more of a problem than a help, otherwise they would have stayed that way.
     
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