Kelsey Hayes 15x8's Rivet problem. Help! PICS.

Hi guys. Well I got the 15x8's Sandblated and Painted Farm Red, but I now have a problem. I took the Rims to get installed and they don't fit on my Drums. My truck is a '75 CJ5.

I'm pretty sure that the Drums are 11". The problem is that there are Rivets on the back of the Rims that are about 1/4 inch sticking out. This is stopping the Rims from fitting onto the Drums.

Aynone have any idea of what I can do here? Can I replace the drums with smaller ones?

See the Pics of the back of the RIMS. The first Pic is of the front and the 2nd Pic is the back of the Rims showing the Rivets.

Thanks,

Todd.

 

Hi Sparky, I believe that the Dums are Finned. The guy at the Tire shop mentioned something about the Drums being flared out.

What does this mean? Can I do something about this?

Can I replace the Drums with smaller ones?

You bought 2 of them right? How do you like the Red?

Todd.

 

Okay, great, so things aren't so bad for me. Can I get Non-Finned Drums new? What would be the difference between the Non-Finned Drums and going with the 10" Drums? Money? I mean if I have to replace the Drums, which would be better and why?

Todd.

 

IIRC my '73 CJ-5 had non-finned drums and my '75 had finned from the factory. It's my understanding that both types will work on all years from '72-75, and maybe on the rears for later Jeeps. The trick will be finding the non-finned drums, since the fins are "better" and will fit all the stock applications, so that's what's usually stocked AFAIK.

Don't even consider going to the older (inferior) 10" diameter brakes - buy new wheels first.

 

Okay guys, this is the deal. Based on your guys responses,( and also I just talked to my brother in Tennessee), that what I should do, is go to a tire place and bring one of the Rims with me, and see if the Non-Flared Drum casings will fit.

If so, then I'm in business. I will do that tomorrow and let you guys know.

And Sparky, you're right about having to get all new hardware if I went the 10" route.

You guys are great!

Thanks for all your help.

Todd.

 

Just a little extra Pic for you guys. This is what the truck looks like with the 15x6's on it. The colour of the Rims is the same.

Todd.

 

If you can't find them locally R&P stocks the non finned drums. Would be better to find them locally though due to shipping costs. Nickmil.

 

I got non finned drums at napa a few years back for my 73 but they were $50 each

 

Okay, I'm going to pick up 4 Non-Finned Drums from Napa tonight up here in Toronto. They are about $50.00 each CDN so about $42.00 U.S. I'm almost positive the Riveted 15x8's will fit over the new Drums.

But now I've been reading that Drilling the Drums makes the brakes perform almost like Disc brakes. Is that true? I really don't care about when the brakes are wet, because I don't take the truck off-road, just City driving. And almost never in the rain.

So does drilling the Drums really make a big difference with dry braking, almost like Disc brakes?

Thanks,

Todd.

 

Sounds like the non finned drums will work for you...good luck, but before I read all this, I was thinking why not just grind off the rivets and puddle weld the holes?

Never mind....went back and looked at the pic and I doubt after you ground down the puddle welds it'd be strong enough.

Plus you'd have balancing issues I bet.

 

Ya,well, I went to get the Drums from NAPA last night and I brought 1 of the Rims with me. And the Non-Finned Drums will NOT clear the Rivets. The Rims from Napa are made by Dana/Wagner.

So, I found another place that sells Raybestos Drums, and went with my Rim. That Drum will NOT clear the Rivets either.

The Drums will not clear by about 1/4", how can this be? Anyone have any ideas? I'm now into these Rims for about $500.00, what with the shipping and the Sandblasting and the Painting.

Man, am I ****ed.

Has anyone ever got these rims to fit on anything? Based on the post in the link below, it seems that they won't fit even on a Disc conversion. So what do these Rims fit on?
http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24733&page=3&highlight=disc+conversion

Todd.

 

Okay, I found these Wheel Adapters on the net. They are 1 and 1/4" deep, should be enough to clear the Rivets. What do you guys think? Will the truck look funny with the wheels sticking out an extra Inch and a Quarter? Or will it hardly be noticable?

Todd.

 

Okay, sounds good Sparky. Looks like I may have a solutuion here. I'll keep you guys updated.

Anyone else please chime in if you have any thoughts or other ideas or opinions. Thanks.

It ain't over till I say it's over. LoL!

Todd.