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Backfired, died

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by sparky, Feb 18, 2006.

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  1. Feb 20, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    From recent experience, be sure the dist cap is on tight. Mine wasn't, similar symptoms. :rofl: Good spring tension in the holddown lugs? Your HEI have 4 holddowns? All engaged & tight?
     
    lynn, Feb 20, 2006
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  2. Feb 20, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    That's fine, I checked that Sat. when it died when I checked to make sure the distributor hadn't slipped.

    Justin, no I haven't looked at it, it was 20* out there yesterday. :shock:
     
    sparky, Feb 20, 2006
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  3. Feb 20, 2006
    69utjeeper

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    yea woke up to 14* here, well good luck......... :)
     
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  4. Feb 20, 2006
    53Flattie

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    The flattie did this once. Turned out it had blown a rubber plug off one of the carb fittings. It was a fitting that was not being used and I had put a plug over it. When it backfired, it blew off, and wouldn't start unless you held the throttle wide open.

    Just something else to check...

    Good luck.
     
    53Flattie, Feb 20, 2006
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  5. Feb 25, 2006
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Hey Sparky, did you figure out what happened???? Or did I miss the thread??
     
    panzer, Feb 25, 2006
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  6. Feb 25, 2006
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    X2, been wondering......
     
    Patrick, Feb 25, 2006
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  7. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    See the Sat. thread.
     
    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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  8. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    How screwed am I and what the heck happened? :cry:

    After I got home and put everything in and it still wouldn't start it occured to me that the rotor hadn't changed position after I'd cranked on it for a bit. I pulled the distributor and found this?

    Did I get the gear on the cam put on backwards? I thought I checked and double and triple checked that to be sure it was right. The distributor fit in without more effort than normal to get the O-ring past the opening.
     
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    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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  9. Feb 25, 2006
    SandhillMike

    SandhillMike Moderator

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    Well, you now have lots of metal in the pan, never good. The other gear is probably trashed also. Might as well start pulling it down. When you pull the front cover you may also find a mess in there too. Bummer Adam.
     
    SandhillMike, Feb 25, 2006
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  10. Feb 25, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    That does not look good ( sorry I can't help)
     
    mb82, Feb 25, 2006
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  11. Feb 25, 2006
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    :shock: WOW, sorry to hear/see!! :( :( :(
     
    Hippo393, Feb 25, 2006
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  12. Feb 25, 2006
    MOP

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    bummer. I can come over after lunch tomorrow and help if you need.
     
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  13. Feb 25, 2006
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    I've not this experience directly, but I do see something similar happen on guitar tuning keys. (I know, quite a stretch. :rofl: ) Obviously, the gear is stripped. Does the dist. shaft turn by hand? If not, then it may have siezed up and caused the scalloping on the gear. If it does turn free, then something bound it up and caused that gear to be eaten. At any rate, my wish for you is that a new gear (or distributor) bolts right in and works for you.

    That being said, (and given I know not much but the basics about your Jeep.) I'd be doing two things....

    1) shine a light down there and see if the teeth on the cam are OK :shock:
    2) change the oil. :rofl:

    Good luck Sparky.
     
    Old Bill, Feb 25, 2006
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  14. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I talked with Patrick on the phone.

    His advice is to tear down the distributor, make sure it's clean and tight, put a new gear on it.

    Then turn the crank by hand and check the teeth on the cam gear. From his experience the cam gear is harder than the distributor gear so it COULD be fine. The small portion I saw/felt was fine I think. Ran out of daylight. Hafta look at it more tomorrow.

    Then drop the oil pan and clean it out.

    He also said Matt's '97 Chevy 1 ton 454 did this a couple months ago. No reason known to them...
     
    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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  15. Feb 25, 2006
    MOP

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    Do you have a spare distributor to get a gear?
     
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  16. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Just sold a spare OF HEI to 69UTJeeper. R)

    Nope. NAPA prolly has it from what Patrick said. If not I'll start hunting here.
     
    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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  17. Feb 25, 2006
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    WOW!!! Wonder what caused it. Patrick didn't know??? Good luck Sparky!!!
     
    panzer, Feb 25, 2006
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  18. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Patrick said he's seen it on distributors before with nothing else harmed and no reason he could discern.
     
    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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  19. Feb 25, 2006
    MOP

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    I have a Delco if it is the same gear
     
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  20. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    <shrug> dunno. Guess we could find out.

    I was going to work on it tomorrow afternoon if you want to stop by.
     
    sparky, Feb 25, 2006
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