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bolts and steering box

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by barry, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Feb 9, 2006
    barry

    barry Inquisitive Member

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    Hi Guys,

    When removing the steering box to weld the broken bracket, I had to cut off the rear bolt to the bracket on the drivers side to the frame. Any ideas how I can get a nut back into the the frame so the bolt can be put on?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Feb 10, 2006
    barry

    barry Inquisitive Member

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    Anyone?
     
  3. Feb 10, 2006
    timgr

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    Barry, this is the 78 or 79? I'm not closely familiar with the 76 an later bracket, but isn't it folded steel and welded to the frame?
     
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  4. Feb 10, 2006
    barry

    barry Inquisitive Member

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    It's the '78. The brackets I could remove from the pump once I took the bolt out. The bracket is bolted, not welded to the frame. The nuts are welded onto the back of the frame inside the boxed frame. The bracket is cracked at the bolt holes, so need to be welded. I would like to bolt it all back up, but have no access to where the nut goes. Should I cut the frame, weld the nut back on, then re-weld the frame? Is that a good idea? Just looking for suggestions.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Feb 10, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    That's an approach I've heard frequently. Another approach would be to drill a hole through both sides of the frame rail, weld in a sleeve, then bolt through the frame, nut on the other side of the rail.
     
  6. Feb 10, 2006
    barry

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    Not a bad idea. That way, the frame is intact. Thanks Lynn. Think I will try that way.
     
  7. Feb 10, 2006
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Lynn's idea is great for fixing the frame nut problem. Regarding the stock steering box bracket I'd get rid of it. You'll weld up the cracks then it will crack again. It's just the pee poor way they are built. Either build a new mount or call up Mountain Off Road Enterprises and get one of their beefed up versions. Much better. They can be found here http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm

    That box mount is a common problem on the '76 up CJ's. Nickmil.
     
  8. Feb 11, 2006
    barry

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    Hi Nick,

    Thanks for the input. That looks like the way to go. Just got to save my pennies.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2006
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    A cross brace really helps too! The clamp that goes around the snout on the box can be had from http://home.foothilloffroad.com/home.jsp
    I fabricated a plate that bolts to the opposite side of the frame with the rod welded to it that connects to the clamp.
     
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  10. Feb 11, 2006
    barry

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    Posi,

    The problem is that I have an AGR2 box on this rig. The snout of the box is a larger diameter than stock, hence my other post. I have yet to find anyone that makes a bracket for this application. I need to figure out some way to do this, as I agree with your assessment.

    Thanks.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2006
    Posimoto

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    You may be able to find a clamp at a commercial electrical supply (large conduit hanger) or pipefitter supply.
     
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