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Passenger-Side Storage Box

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by BOHICA, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. Jan 17, 2006
    BOHICA

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    Howdy, y'all. My papaw has a '73 CJ-5 with a 304. Unfortunately, he got a GMC Sierra a few years ago and the Jeep's been sitting in the shed behind his house ever since. I've been trying to take it off his hands for years, but he keeps worrying I'll roll it. Anyways, I'm getting off track. Since the Jeep was used in the mud so much, there are several cancer spots on it that need to be replaced, if not the whole body. I'm attending Wyotech right now and hopefully I'll be able to bring the CJ up here to repair, but if I can't I'll just have to buy a new body. My question is this: if I have to get a new body, do any of them have the storage compartment that's underneath the passenger seat on the OEM body or is that something they don't bother installing?
     
  2. Jan 17, 2006
    sparky

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    Welcome from KS!

    Re: the body. Aftermarket tubs aren't likely to have the toolbox. Best bet is to find a good used one if you like that feature among other little features, indentations, etc.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2006
    BOHICA

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    That's what I was afraid of, thanks. BTW, what exactly is the difference between pre-'72 CJ's and '72-'75's? Some places I've read on them at say they're the same and others say they're different, but don't ellaborate.
     
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    sparky

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  5. Jan 18, 2006
    BOHICA

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    Pretty sure you know what I mean by the storage compartment, but just in case, this is what I was talking about.
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  6. Jan 18, 2006
    Rondog

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    AKA toolbox, liquor cabinet, gun safe, etc.
     
  7. Jan 18, 2006
    TigerShark

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    How much cancer does the original body have? If it's not excessive, it's realy pretty easy to weld in new replacement pieces. I did mine, and before this project I had never touched a welder before.

    Jim
     
  8. Jan 18, 2006
    lynn

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    Welcome BO!! :)
    You have many options. Some require skill, some require luck, some require deep pockets :D

    There are lots of differences between the 72-75 units and the earlier ones... and the later ones too. If you still have questions on the differences after reading the link Sparky posted, let us know.

    With the tub you have a few options. Weld in repair panels, as Jim said, isn't as hard as it sounds if the tub isn't in too bad shape overall. See www.classicent.com as one source for panels.
    Fiberglass tub is an option. You could always fab up some kind of underseat toolbox...
    Most folks who bought glass tubs from this source are pleased:
    www.4wd.com
    Another option is to try to find a good used tub. Any 55-75 tub will fit for you, but any pre-72 tub you'll have to make some firewall mods/patches, maybe some mount location changes. It will be hard to find a good used 72-75 tub, these tended to rust more than some of the earlier ones.... but you could be lucky...

    www.willysoverland.com can sell you a new steel replacement tub. Made in the Phillipines, they add some brackets/holes IAW the original specs. You'd have to check with them to determine if the tub they would have for your rig comes with a toolbox.

    HTH :)
     
  9. Jan 18, 2006
    timgr

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    Greetings from Boston -

    JM2CW - the CJ tub is comparatively easy to repair, since most of the panels are flat or have simple curves. Depending on how much time you have compared to how much money, you can make many repairs with flat steel sheet or generic panels and shapes (hat channels, corrugated floor panels, etc) available from body repair suppliers. This is in addition to preformed panels available from Classic Enterprises and others.

    Several members here have made substantial body repairs of this type - make a search in the "Garage pics" forum for member Johnny Jeep, or "project rust bucket" ... those come to mind now, but I'm sure other members can suggest other threads to look at.

    As the link posted above describes, the '72-75 Jeeps are the "intermediates" - these are the first really new generation of Jeeps under the management of AMC :AMC: ... in 1976, the second genration came out, and they have many differences. The main changes made to the '72-75 models were to accomodate the AMC :AMC: line of inline 6 and V8 engines.

    I'm a big fan of these Jeeps - they have a lot of the "classic" characteristics of the earlier Kaiser Jeeps, but provide some great improvements in steering and brakes, in particular.

    If you have plenty of money, the best solution would be to buy an original, rustless tub from one of the big yards in the west and have it shipped to you. I'd expect that to be priced competitively with a new Phillipine tub.
     
  10. Jan 18, 2006
    BOHICA

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    Thanks for the help and welcomes guys. I'm going on memory here, but IIRC, there's rust on the rocker panels, body mounts, quarter panels, tool box, floorboards, tire carrier contact points, and roll cage mounts, so it's fairly extensive. Mostly I'm just hoping to keep the tub for sentimental reasons, I'm just not sure if it would be cost effective in the long run. I think it can be saved, though. Regardless of what happens to the body, do y'all recommend running the cage through the body and mounting it to the frame or just welding/bolting it back? Thanks again.
     
  11. Jan 18, 2006
    mb82

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    I rebuilt my tub for around $800 and I basicly replaced everything from the cowl back. It takes some work but really the hard part was learning to weld on the tub. Bad idea right there.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2006
    BOHICA

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    Ok, that makes me feel better. The school I'm going to has street rod and chassis fab classes that can sometimes work on your vehicle for you and all they charge is for parts, so I guess now I just need to find a truck and trailer to get the jeep up here.
     
  13. Jan 18, 2006
    John A. Shows

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    Unless I'm mistaken, you can buy that tool box from Willy's Kaiser Auto Supply. Not sure if maybe you could buy a new tub and then install the underseat tool box in it. I don't know what the tubs w/out the underseat box look like.
     
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