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Rear Cross-member?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by lorne, Dec 13, 2005.

  1. Dec 13, 2005
    lorne

    lorne Ummm...

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    Hi guys,

    Take a look at this photo...Do I need a new rear cross-member? (Thanks to SIDSCJ for educating me that it's not a bumper)! :oops:

    I took off the step bumper that was previously attached (or was it a drawbar :D ) and found all these holes.

    lj

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  2. Dec 13, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Is it cracked or sagging on either side?

    Looks good to me from here. I'm no expert though. I only play one online.
     
  3. Dec 13, 2005
    $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

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    looks better'n mine:rofl:
     
  4. Dec 13, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Looks good 2 me 2. The x-member that holds the tranny/x-fer case should also have a ton 'o holes innit...no probs their either. ;)
     
  5. Dec 13, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Looks pretty close to stock to me, clean it up and use it.
     
  6. Dec 14, 2005
    S-Rage

    S-Rage Adam Schrage

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    Looks like the same holes as mine. I have a swing out spare tire carrier that yours might have had at one time.
     
  7. Dec 14, 2005
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Is it just me or is the right side shorter than the left? Maybe I should lay off the crack....
     
  8. Dec 14, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Ron there was a thread lately discussing that very observation. It's normal, IIRC, to allow for exhaust to exit behind the right rear (or something like that). I think Patrick knows that answer. :beer:
     
  9. Dec 14, 2005
    CT

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    Whats the larger hole just to left of the center cross member for? Was that for a pto shaft or something?
     
  10. Dec 14, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    just a guess here but...for a wire harness for a trailer. :?
     
  11. Dec 14, 2005
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Ah, thanks! I thought I was going batty. I don't think my '56 is like that, but I'd have to look, and it's all tore apart right now.

    Lorne, what's with the four taillights? My Jeep had four, but the top two were just for flat towing. They were wired out to a plug on the towbar, like trailer lights. Same deal with yours?

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  12. Dec 14, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Ron, I can't speak for Lorne, but I've got a similar setup. My Sparton turning signal requires a separate circuit for taillights & blinker lights, therefore I've got my blinker lamps above my taillights. :beer:
     
  13. Dec 14, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Is it an original Sparton? Shouldn't need two lights if so...
     
  14. Dec 14, 2005
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    Yes, exactly. PTO would run off the D18 to the rear, thru the crossmember and mate to the input flange on the rear gearbox. Same as my '56.
     
  15. Dec 14, 2005
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Bang on it with a hammer Lorne. :shock: Mine was paper thin in the middle from rust, so I replaced it with something a tad stronger ;)
    If yours is solid, clean and paint it.. the drilled holes are no worry.
     
  16. Dec 14, 2005
    timgr

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    Holes in the web (vertical part) don't affect the strength much. Holes in the rails (top, bottom) do.

    You can buy the complete cross-member new if it's rusted out.
     
  17. Dec 14, 2005
    lorne

    lorne Ummm...

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    I hadn't noticed it was shorter on one side until the question was raised here!

    As for the four taillights; I think that's something from the PO. They don't come on with the switch and I think they were strictly hooked up for towing. There is a cable coming out the front with a connector to plug in to the car doing the towing.

    I believe the bottom two are original.

    lj
     
  18. Dec 14, 2005
    lorne

    lorne Ummm...

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    It's solid, just more holes than I expected. I'm pretty sure some were added for the step bumper that was on this when I bought it. The extra holes are a bit elongated and the metal around those holes is bent as if the bolts were starting to pull through.

    lj
     
  19. Dec 15, 2005
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    I see evenly spaced sets of four holes on each side. Is it possible that it had some of those "bumperettes" on it at one time?
     
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