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Dieseling?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by lorne, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. Dec 6, 2005
    lorne

    lorne Ummm...

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    Hi guys,

    What causes dieseling (keeps chuggin after turned off)? Happens 8.5 times out of 10 for me.

    Thanks...

    lj
     
  2. Dec 6, 2005
    181jeep

    181jeep Banned

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    carbon buildup on valves, sparkplug, head. Stays red hot and ignites incoming fuel without spark. Timing off also.

    JB
     
  3. Dec 6, 2005
    tgregg

    tgregg Member

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    We used to run the old flathead Fords at a couple of thousnd RPM and slowly dump a Coke bottle of water into the carburator. The idea was the steam would clean up the carbon. Does anyone still do that? Remember those little Coke bottles? Not sure if they are still around in the US. I've seen them recently in third world countries.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Timing advanced usually in my experience.
     
  5. Dec 6, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Someone here (Mcruff maybe?) once suggested using a spray bottle w/ water to accomplish the same goal, IIRC.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Usually the timng is too far advanced. Is the engine hard to crank over?
     
  7. Dec 7, 2005
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    The V6s were notorious for this, They had an anti-deiseling valve installed on the later ones to help in cutting off the fuel supply when power was switched off. Mine does it sometimes when the engine is hot.
    I removed the anti-deiseling valve a long time ago. It wasn't hooked up when I got the Jeep.
     
  8. Dec 7, 2005
    mruta

    mruta I drank with Billy!

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    Another possible cause that no one mentioned is the idle speed- too high can cause dieseling.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2005
    Brad Rabideau

    Brad Rabideau more Jeeps than sense...

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    What does the anti-dieseling valve look like and were would it be located?
     
  10. Dec 7, 2005
    timgr

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    It's a solenoid located at the carburetor, about the size of a flashlight battery, with threads on one end so it can be adjusted in and out. Takes the place of the idle speed screw. When the key is shut off, the pin in the center of the solenoid retracts and allows the throttle butterflys to close completely.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Yep I use the water down the carb trick, read about it in Car craft magazine back in about 1977, works well, use restraint on how you do this. Bad gas was the norm for old muscle cars when I was in high school (no 98 octane and unleaded was becoming the norm) so water injection was a big thing, had an Edelbrock water injection unit on my old Duster
     
  12. Dec 7, 2005
    lorne

    lorne Ummm...

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    Thanks guys, I've got a list of things to check now. Idle is quite low (sometimes I think it's not going to keep running), but it can be hard to turn over - I'll start with the timing...

    lj
     
  13. Dec 11, 2005
    Phalanxx

    Phalanxx Jeep Newbie

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    timing too far advanced in my opinion. the water trick is best done with a spray bottle held above the carb a foot or so. spray a mist and let the vacuum suck it down. once it hits the hot valves, it will peel old gas off easily. too much and you could warp your intake valve or break a piston (water doesnt compress easily).
     
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