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Radiator Overflow Cap

Discussion in 'Jeep Truck and FC Tech' started by jeepstar, Oct 20, 2023.

  1. Oct 20, 2023
    jeepstar

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    1959 fc150.
    The overflow cannister has a cap similar to a radiator. Is it the same?

    Driving to work this morning it came loose. Tightened it, it's fine. Time to replace, 2nd time its happened
     
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    dnb71R2

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    The overflow tank on old vehicles probably is NOT pressurized. In that case, the cap will be a simple thread on or quarter turn unit.
    If your tank is pressurized, then the cap should have the double detent for removal. It may even have the pressure relief valve lever or the push down and twist feature.
     
  3. Oct 20, 2023
    PeteL

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    The overflow tank on old vehicles probably is NOT pressurized

    "Old" vehicles had no overflow tank. Only a dump tube. A holding tank is a relatively recent development. I'm surprised a '59 would have one.

    And so those vehicles had pressurized cap at the radiator. It would hold pressure to a certain value, but allow air to inflow as the radiator cooled and the coolant shrank.

    But to have a return flow from an overflow tank, the radiator neck must still hold pressure, but be arranged to instead suck overflow fluid back from the holding tank, therefore has to be fully sealed from the outside atmosphere. Different cap plumbing than the earlier type is needed at the radiator.

    But probably the holding tank cap is fully vented both ways, as the remote tank would not be pressurized, as dnb5853 says.

    So - no, not the same.
     
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  4. Oct 22, 2023
    jeepstar

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    There is no radiator cap on an fc, just the catch can.
     
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    Then I don't know. Not familiar with FCs. But if the catch can is supposed to hold the necessary pressure in the cooling system, I suppose it would need a cap that functions like a conventional radiator cap.
     
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    Sounds about right for that era.
     
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    jeepstar

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    Part 7007 at oreillys auto parts.

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    jeepstar

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    Wasn't that the cap was bad:whistle:

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    jeepstar

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    Jb weld is in my future. If only I didn't scrap out an entire fc chassis last month, I would have a spare today.
     
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    Interesting.

    From the photos, I'd say that is less of a "catch can" and more of a remote fill. Witness that it has it seems to have its own basic dump tube, just as I cited "early" jeep radiators having.
     
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    Here is a new one. Used to fill remotely, or catch any overflow if it surges.

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    $295!!!

    How much is that in American money?
     
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    It's a remote fill, so you don't have to jack the cab to check the coolant.

    If you wanted to get super fancy, you can put a recovery tank on the overflow spout. You may need to change the radiator cap but it may be worth the effort.

    Virtually all wet automotive cooling systems from the 1940's on are pressurized. This brings the boiling point up 40+ degrees (depending on pressure and coolant mixture).
     
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    Had to order a catch can for my 59 fc150.

    Willys America has them, 350+ shipping.

    Went on the fc connection website found a guy that makes them. 240, shipped. Hope to get it soon, will post when it arrives. New unit:
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    Thats not a “catch can”. It’s a pressure reservoir/surge tank, and yes, it uses a regular radiator cap. Many 1960’s Fords used a surge tank, but in a very different shape. A catch can is not a pressurized container. Your old surge tank is easily reparable. Any decent radiator shop should be able to repair it.
    The tank is steel and can rust. I have bead-blasted the rusty area, then simply used lead solder to close up the leak. Brazing also can be used to repair them, but that requires more skill working with thin rusted metal.
    What are you doing with your old one?
    -Donny
     
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    Having my competent welder friend repair it, then coating it in oil, putting in a clearly labeled box, then putting it with my other jeep parts
     
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    Lessons learned with a fuel pump?
    -Donny
     
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    Yes. I never claimed to be smart. Sometimes I even learn from my mistakes!
     
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    That's half of the reason for my build thread! I'm sure I'll look back on this someday and think "man, what the heck was I doing?".
     
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