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Paint, My Nemesis

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by timsresort, Aug 8, 2023.

  1. Aug 8, 2023
    timsresort

    timsresort Active Member 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    I need to paint the front fenders on my '67, after fixing some old Rubicon rash and some rust in the double panel area.
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    The last time I needed a stock jeep color, I went to an automotive paint supplier in Carson City, showed them the stock jeep paint chip, (in this case 332 Indian Ceramic), they looked it up, got the recipe, mixed it up, and walked out with some nice acrylic urethane single stage.
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    Wow, times have changed. My experience today at the same supplier was terrible. First they shot a photo of the sample I brought in (tailgate)-no matches. Next, they Googled the paint code-nothing. Next they fumbled through some old books, nothing. They literally can't match it, they admit, no one knows how to do it. They eventually called PPG for an updated code based on the old PPG 332 code and mixed up a sample. With a drop on the tailgate close enough (I thought), I had them make a quart. Got it home and looked closer, it's not even close. $130 bucks later.
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    I obviously can't go back to these guys. If the computer doesn't tell them what to mix, or it's not in the system, they don't know what to do. Look for a body shop that can match single stage paint? Does that exist? Anyway, I appreciate the knowlege base here, and I'm apparently about 30 years behind the times (on paint), so looking for advice or recommendations in the N. Cal or Western NV area.
     
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    Wingnut68

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    Did you try Kaiserwillies? kaiserwillys.com. I haven't used them for paint but they have a lot of orig colors in the catalog. I agree, paint is way different than it was last time I was doing body work.....has it been 30 years......omg it has.
     
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    timsresort

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    I have not thought about KW, but I'm gun shy about the mail order part of it.
     
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    vtxtasy

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    Take the paint back and have them adjust the recipe. It may have been wrong the first time. Do you have the
    original can as it will have the mix?
     
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    jeep peep69

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    Paint mart in redding is really good at matching paint.
     
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    Keys5a

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    With the old bodyshop we used to have locally, the old owner showed me how to adjust colors, trial-and-error. I got so good at it, he used to call me to come up and work with him on some mixes (his eyes were getting bad from age). Most paint stores have someone that can do this. It looks like you need to add some white and maybe a drop or two of yellow to what you have. Just do a little at a time, and shake it up well as you add the tinting color. That new can you have can be tinted a lot closer.
    -Donny
     
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    sterlclan

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    the aged paint will have faded some and further complicates things. looks like a smidge more white might help
     
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    timsresort

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    I don't have the original can, it's been a long time. I think I will go back. They need to do better. Unfortunately, I was trying to squeeze this in between jeep trips, so it will have to wait a few weeks.
     
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    timsresort

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    timsresort

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    Thank you for that tip, it may come to that. I need to visit some Northern CA friends anyway, gives me a good reason to go if the first shop can't make it better.
     
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    vtxtasy

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    Mary Kay Pink. :D
     
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    vtxtasy

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    It is mostly red, blue and green to get that color.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Hard to match on a photo, I'd take the tailgate itself & let them match with the colour computer camera thingy.
     
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    timsresort

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    It's been called worse. But it's a family site so we won't go there.
     
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    Danefraz

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    also a ppg paint shop in Chico on 20th street a couple blocks west of Sierra NV Brewery. Good folks last time i was in there.
     
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