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Under Hood Temps

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by XXIIILIV, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. Jul 30, 2023
    wingless

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    It gets really warm in southern FL, especially under the hood w/ my 304 V8, but there has been zero instances of vapor lock.

    My impression is the hood vents are a fix for a non existent problem.
     
  2. Jul 30, 2023
    PeteL

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    Do you have vapor lock problems?
     
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  3. Jul 30, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I did, and after adding a filter with a return, it has diminished greatly, so i figured maybe louvers could help some
     
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  4. Jul 30, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Any thoughts on the forward v. backward question ?
     
  5. Jul 30, 2023
    Desert Runner

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    I have mine facing to the rear, obviously,
    I know the natural air flow is thru the radiator, across the engine then down and out underneath, but I have been getting some vapor lock and heat related issues with my FiTech. But I removed the F/I system before I did this mod. I have not had a vapor lock issue. I'll let you know how everything shakes out on my next west coast trip in 2024
     
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  6. Jul 30, 2023
    Jw60

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    I'ld run them with the opening to the rear. So the sharp edge will be away from me. I'ld also be the one cheese grating the low hanging branches and getting twigs in em.
     
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  7. Aug 1, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Well, that should do it
     
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  8. Aug 1, 2023
    Old Paint Redux

    Old Paint Redux 1970 CJ5 225 Dauntless

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    I don't want to be a "know-it-all" but you may want to turn your louvers around 180 degrees so the air under the hood can vent out while driving. As is the air will be entering through the grill and through the louvers instead of flowing out to the airstream, JMHO. BTW, the previous owner installed the same type of louvers on the hood of my 1970 V6 CJ5. I'm not sure how helpful they are for reducing the under hood temperature but they do allow water to drench the engine and accessories every time it rains or when it's washed, YMMV.

    Martin
     
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  9. Aug 1, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I’m always open to ideas… I figure I’ll run it like this for a bit and see what happens. I’m planning to do some temperature readings as well to answer this very question. Now, as far as rain? I live in vegas, and don’t even know how to spell rain. Our average rainfall is 4”, and I don’t drive the jeep in the rain, so facing forward for me, isn’t much of an issue
     
  10. Aug 1, 2023
    PeteL

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    Do what?

    What if they scoop enough air to create positive pressure - and reduce the air flowing through the radiator?

    :confused:
     
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  11. Aug 1, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    That is an excellent question. There are approximately 14.5” of louvers, so, i don’t think it will overwhelm airflow, through the radiator, especially at my average speed of 40 mph. My thought is that airflow through the jeep will continue as always and that maybe some will be introduced via the top. At any rate, hot air should be able to escape when stopped. At least that my big brain tells me :D
     
  12. Aug 2, 2023
    amboynut

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    Zackly what I was thinkin'.
     
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  13. Aug 2, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I’m thinking that if that were so, then the roughly 500+ sq. In of radiator, plus however many inches of space at the bottom of the engine compartment, is woefully inadequate. At any rate, until my wind tunnel comes in from Amazon, its fun to postulate
     
  14. Aug 2, 2023
    PeteL

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    I agree. But isn't that the premise you are beginning from?

    Here's an idea... put some blocks under the hood hinges, on the cowl. Raise the back of the hood an inch and that will let hot air out for sure. Here up north, the old timers used to do that to create a defroster.
     
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  15. Aug 2, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I read about the block things, and did actually try it… didn’t like how it looked. Thanks, though for the idea. As a retired electrician, here are my professional thoughts on aerodynamics :confused: There are “X” units of air flowing past the radiator, and “X” units exiting, mostly through the bottom. A few of those units are used by the engine itself for combustion. I am adding “Y” units through the top, most of which will exit the bottom with a small amount maybe for combustion. I figure those few cubic inches or so, won’t affect much, and may have a small benefit. At the end of the day, they (louvers) should at least shed some heat at slow and stop situations.
     
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  16. Aug 3, 2023
    duffer

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    My devalued 2 cents: whether or not hood louvers or a scoop will function in the desired mode at road speed is going to depend a lot on the physical positioning of those. I suspect a location more towards the front of the hood will be in the low pressure area created by airflow over the grill and the leading edge of the hood. Conversely, positioning those towards the rear is likely going to subject them to higher pressure from air being lifted over the windshield. All that is moot when crawling where air passing through the radiator is going exit anywhere it can.

    I made a low wide scoop for my 3B hood running its entire length and left it open on both ends. Seems to work well.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Aug 3, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I like how that looks. I just took mine out for the first post louvers drive. SOTP tells me i gained 50 HP. Ok, in reality, probably nothing changed, and it hasn’t hit 100 degrees here yet, but, engine temp seemed a few degrees lower, and the vapor lock issue seems a bit better. So, who knows
     
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