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.....could Not Disengage My Front Right Selectro Hub Today ?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Lockman, Jan 5, 2023.

  1. Jan 5, 2023
    Lockman

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    Won't turn ? Left side was no problem ?
    Any input or support would be appreciated, Ya'all
    ....Richie
     
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    timsresort

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    Did you rock it? Back up a little?
     
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    Ol Fogie

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    X2, Maybe jack up the wheel and rock it back and forth by hand while trying to turn the hub. Even if it works, sounds like hub service is in your future.
    Be sure both hubs are set the same so that the jeep can be driven. Do not drive with one hub locked and the other unlocked. I bet you already knew that though.(y)
     
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    danielbuck

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    my old selectro hubs (before one of them fell off... LOL) would occasionally get stuck. I found the easiest way to get them unstuck was to be parked on level ground, get out with the vehicle in neutral and give the tire a push so it starts rolling. twist the hub while it's rolling and for me anyway, it would always engage/disengage like that.
     
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    PeteL

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    :shock:
    Sounds like what Jeremy Renner was doing when he ran himself over with the sno-cat.
     
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    nickmil

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    If you have a limited slip or locker in the front I could see the locking hub getting in a bind like that but if an open differential no way. That would indicate a locking hub issue and needs disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and serviced.
     
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    jeepdaddy2000

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    With the left hub disengaged and the t case in N, the issue should be the hub, as any wind up would be relieved through the drivetrain.
    I would be looking at a possible issue with the screws or the cam.
     

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    colojeepguy

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    I used to fight this exact issue with a front powerlok & the old 3 ring Warn hubs. I'd have to drive in a circle to relieve the bind on the front axle shafts, then I could unlock the hubs.
    If the OP has an open diff, then there's gotta be a problem with the hub.
     
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    Lockman

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    I've got a LockRite.....Same way I'm Think'n . Thanks
     
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    Lockman

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    ....Thanks jeepdaddy, I'll try procedure now & let y'all know a little later. This helps a lot.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    Get a pair of these, problem solved.
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    danielbuck

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    I don't know if Yukon makes them for stock 10 spline axles, but I love the slimmer "hardcore" locking hubs from Yukon, I have them on the front D44 in my 46. Definitely nice chunks of hardware :)
     
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    wheelie

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    I'm still fighting this as some of you know. Very similar set up as Doug with the front power lock and old style hubs. I often get out and try to run myself over while simultaneously trying to unlock my hubs. I sometimes chase my jeep as it tries to run away from me like people do. Often is a word I seldom use. I'm going with Dougs advice at some point. Hard to discount the voice of experience.
     
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    jeepdaddy2000

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    This
    Older style Warns use a positive drive clutch engagement. This means any pressure on the clutch ring effectively "jams" it in place when engaged and if the splines aren't aligned, won't engage either.

    The newer hubs are spring loaded and allow you to apply engagement/disengagement pressure on the clutch ring through the engagement spring. This lets you to "disengage" the hub, then as you are driving, the spring will continue to exert pressure until the pressure on the clutch ring is relieved and the hub actually disengages from the axle.

    I know they aren't nearly as cool as the earlier styles, but with a traction diff, would be worth the investment.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    Exactly! You explained it better than I could!(y)
     
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    Ol Fogie

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    That is how the hubs work on my Ford truck. I often park with the wheels turned fully left or right when disengaging the hubs. I turn the knob to fully free then reach behind the wheel and grasp the axle joint and rock it back and forth a few times until I hear the hub disengage with a click, then I can verify that the hub is in free position by being able to rotate the axle by hand.
     
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    wheelie

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    This is why I resisted the newer style Warns on my JEEP. I really prefer the period look of the older hubs but the JEEP has evolved and now I have to make the change. Just the way it is. My other JEEPs will retain the old style pieces but anything with a traction in the front will be modernized out of necessity.
     
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    Lockman

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    Update here , my Friends. Installer error..... no wonder it wouldn't turn. Got a couple of Delron replacements & upgraded phillips head set screws coming from Torque King. :oops:
    Whooopsie.....1.jpg Whooopsie.....2.jpg
     
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    Ol Fogie

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    Things happen sometimes. My neighbor was replacing his brake pads, turned them backward. I asked him "did it mess up your rotor" ? He said "a little bit" I ask what happened? He said that neighbor across the street, you know the one that always wears the mini skirts, was unloading her groceries at the time and I may have missed a few minor details while changing my brake pads. :shrug:, Don't know if that had anything to do with it or not but it is the only thing I can think of. :D .
     
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    PeteL

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    When I was a teenager, my grandfather asked me to "look at" his brakes, "making a noise.". Just back from the service mechanic. The pads were facing backwards, metal to metal.

    I learned a lot about trusting professionals that day.
     
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